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Ground Zero mega-mosque will be seen "by many millions of Muslims as a victory
Jihad Watch ^ | Aug 15, 2010 | Sam Harris

Posted on 08/15/2010 3:57:46 PM PDT by SmartInsight

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To: SmartInsight

I give you Hagia Sophia:

“The Hagia Sophia or Ayasofya as it is known in Turkish was actually a patriarchal Basilica that has been considered to be an embodiment of Byzantine architecture and also had the distinction of remaining the largest cathedral in the world until 1520. Built on the orders of the Byzantine Emperor Justinian, its interiors were richly decorated with artistic mosaics depicting various religious scenes and were supported by massive marble pillars.”

http://www.hagia-sophia.net/

“For God, the Cid, and Spain”

“1080. It was an unhappy time. Spain was war-torn. It was half Christian and half Moor. Rodrigo Diaz of Vivar came to be known as “El Cid” (”The Lord”). He was a simple man who became Spain’s greatest hero. At the time the African Emir was Ben Yusuf who gathered his forces in North Africa.

Ben Yusuf tells his men that they will first take Spain, then Europe and then the whole world.

A Spanish church is burning. A Catholic Father prays at the burned altar. Rodrigo comes over to help the Father get up. He tells the Father that they have captured the leaders of the destruction. The Father says to Rodrigo that he is a long way from home. Rodrigo explains that he was on his way to his wedding when he suddenly had to fight a battle with the Moors. Now he will take the captured Moorish leaders to Vivar.”

http://www.vernonjohns.org/snuffy1186/elcid.html

The Alhambra
http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/The_Alhambra.html

Significance of 1492 (search)
http://www.dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/significance%20of%201492/1/417/BottomNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true

“Remembering Lepanto”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/218921/remembering-lepanto/michael-novak

“The Al Aqsa Mosque on The Temple Mount”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25578

The Ground Zero Mosque, as the Flight 93 Memorial, represent CONQUEST. Get that through your heads, people.


21 posted on 08/15/2010 4:27:58 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: SmartInsight

There can be a mosque at our shrine against militant Islam, Ground Zero, when America can have a pork hotdog stand, bars including gay bars serving alcohol, and Christian churches of a dozen denominations in Mecca.


22 posted on 08/15/2010 4:28:54 PM PDT by Tax Government (We ask nothing except that our elected representatives uphold the Constitution.)
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To: Tax Government

“and Christian churches of a dozen denominations in Mecca.”

You forgot a synagogue... ;-)


23 posted on 08/15/2010 4:33:19 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: Principled

I think a fire station across the street would be a nice touch. Just in case there is a fire at the gay bar or the pig barbecue on either side of the mosque.


24 posted on 08/15/2010 4:36:29 PM PDT by bigheadfred (apoplectic purple)
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To: combat_boots
The Ground Zero Mosque, as the Flight 93 Memorial, represent CONQUEST. Get that through your heads, people.

Absolutely correct. The plague of political correctness has brought us to the point where even these most backward of savages believe that we are weak and present little threat to their plans to seize this continent. Given the number of those insipid "Coexist" bumper stickers that I see, they may indeed be correct.

25 posted on 08/15/2010 4:39:46 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: antidemoncrat

What Muslim country allows Christians to live, work, worship, and hold Bible studies in public, with no threat of violence? NONE.

These nut jobs still act like the Crusades happened yesterday, but we are supposed to act like 9/11 is the ancient history.


26 posted on 08/15/2010 4:43:51 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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To: SmartInsight

RE build the towers so the shadows cover the mosque, and name the towers The El Cid - Vlad Trading center, then see who complains.


27 posted on 08/15/2010 4:50:59 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Put Alan West on the fast track, to the White House!)
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To: SmartInsight

Must see!

Of Mosques and Men: Reflections on the Ground Zero Mosque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg


28 posted on 08/15/2010 4:54:56 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: SmartInsight

I hope they build it, it will incense New Yorkers and remind everybody of Obama’s idiocy. If they don’t build it there, (most likely) then it will be seen as a victory for intolerant racists. What do I want? Whatever hurts Obama politically, that’s what.


29 posted on 08/15/2010 5:11:52 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: Sir Clancelot

Everywhere they have been in control is a total disgrace and BACKWARDS. Our government has allowed them in and in thinking they will assimilate like immigrants throughout our history.

That is why they WILL take over this country, but only after the CHURCH is removed in the RAPTURE, along with the restraining power of the HOLY SPIRIT. GOD help all those who are left behind. When that time comes, the AGE OF GRACE is over, salvation will be loosing your head for then accepting JESUS CHRIST. People, please read and believe John 3:16 before this happens. If you have already, just hold on, the LORD will take care of us. It will now get worse and worse, we are witnessing the birth pangs worldwide.


30 posted on 08/15/2010 5:26:54 PM PDT by WNC mountainboy (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.)
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To: SmartInsight

Blow up a building, replace it with a mosque. It’s not rocket science.


31 posted on 08/15/2010 6:34:53 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Spok

No, not rocket science. It’s Muslim history.


32 posted on 08/15/2010 6:35:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: SmartInsight
ground zero mosque; politics
33 posted on 08/15/2010 6:37:26 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: devere

“The Muslims think they won and deserve a victory mosque.”

They will have won if they can get this mosque built before there is any new building constructed at the site of the WTC.


34 posted on 08/15/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: SmartInsight; Irisshlass; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

“The claim that the events of September 11, 2001, had “nothing to do with Islam” is an abject and destabilizing lie. This murder of 3,000 innocents was viewed as a victory for the One True Faith by millions of Muslims throughout the world “

Even a lot of liberals recognize the mosque would be a victory monument to the horrendous jihadist attack on the US, in the name of Islam.


35 posted on 08/15/2010 6:42:38 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: WNC mountainboy
That is what the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ means in chapter 12....
The tail of the dragon swung and trew 1/3 of the stars towards earth ( this is figutively ).
Jesus said that he saw satan as a bolt of lighting crashing to the earth.
After God sends his angels to gather his loved ones who believe in Christ, the Holy Spirit will stop restraining the evil forces of hell.
36 posted on 08/16/2010 12:23:13 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USAis no civility in)
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To: Fu-fu2
They will have won if they can get this mosque built before there is any new building constructed at the site of the WTC.

I've wondered out loud before and will do so again, whether the people behind the Victory Mosque have had anything to do with the quarreling and quibbling that has slowed the building of the Freedom Tower to a crawl and induced massive dissension about what should be built in the first place.

Of course, New Yorkers quibbled and piked for years over the base of the Statue of Liberty, which they were asked to contribute to the statue's construction.

37 posted on 08/16/2010 12:25:40 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: combat_boots
The Ground Zero Mosque, as the Flight 93 Memorial, represent CONQUEST

That crescent idea didn't make it into the final Flight 93 Memorial, did it? <hope not!>

38 posted on 08/16/2010 12:31:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Not to my satisfaction. But....

“Design modifications
In response to criticism, the designer has agreed to modify the plan. The architect believes that the central elements can be maintained to satisfy criticism. “It’s a disappointment there is a misinterpretation and a simplistic distortion of this, but if that is a public concern, then that is something we will look to resolve in a way that keeps the essential qualities,” Murdoch, 48, said in a telephone interview to the Associated Press.[17]

The redesigned memorial has the plain shape of a circle (as opposed to a crescent) bisected by the flight’s trajectory. “The circle enhances the earlier design by putting more emphasis on the crash site, officials said in the newsletter. A break in the trees will symbolize the path the plane took as it crashed.”[18] There is criticism that the redesign does not address any of the issues with the original design.[who?]

The redesign has been unveiled and can be seen at the NPS official web page for the memorial. Architect Paul Murdoch describes it as follows:

“The image is an aerial view from the bowl looking towards the Sacred Ground. To the left in the background, a walkway approaches from an arrival court along the edge of and overlooking the Sacred Ground. The walkway eventually widens in from a ceremonial gate, shown in bronze, and the wall of names, composed of 40 panels of 3-inch (7.6 cm)-thick slabs of polished white granite, 8 feet (2.4 m) tall, each inscribed with a name of the 40 heroes. Two walls flanking the gate are clad in polished white granite and the flight path is paved with black granite. Beyond the gate is the impact site, shown planted with wildflowers, and the hemlock grove beyond.”[19]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_93_National_Memorial#Design_modifications

Design:
http://www.honorflight93.org/memorial/memorial-tomorrow/?fa=design-features


39 posted on 08/16/2010 5:28:31 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: SmartInsight

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2571374/posts?page=1


40 posted on 08/16/2010 5:56:27 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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