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To: DesertRenegade
Beck's job in the media is beholden to homosexuals. If he's at not a least neutral on the issue, they will try to ruin him like they did Dr. Laura.

This is all about Glen's paycheck and his comfortable lifestyle. Same with Rush. They are sell outs.
18 posted on 08/14/2010 3:39:31 PM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Antoninus

Yes - I was thinking of that on the other thread. They remember what happened to Dr. Laura. Exactly.


20 posted on 08/14/2010 3:41:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Antoninus
"Beck's job in the media is beholden to homosexuals. If he's at not a least neutral on the issue, they will try to ruin him like they did Dr. Laura. This is all about Glen's paycheck and his comfortable lifestyle. Same with Rush. They are sell outs." I agree with your analysis 100%.
88 posted on 08/14/2010 8:10:38 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: Antoninus; little jeremiah; DesertRenegade
This is all about Glen's paycheck and his comfortable lifestyle. Same with Rush. They are sell outs.

Glen is an opportunist and a quasi conservative who found his niche in hosting a conservative radio and TV show, so I'm not surprised that he came out in support of same-sex marriage.  Rush is against same-sex marriage, and has consistently maintained that marriage is a union between one man and one woman. Rush isn't a sell out, but he is his own man.

Rush doesn't mind civil unions which, I don't agree with him in that regard.  However, he is against gay marriage and has spent almost his entire show attacking Judge Walker's ruling in favor of gay marriage at a time when many Republicans and conservative are silent about this issue, but Rush has the fortitude and courage to speak up and to call that homosexual judge out.

Since you guys don't seem to know Rush's position on the subject, I will post some relevant parts of the relevant transcript here.

Excerpt:

This federal judge yesterday, this decision, Prop 8, California, has just put people over the edge, and all of these decisions are coming one after another from all corners of the federal government.  It's as if we have absolutely no say in what is going on all around us.  Decisions are being made for us, in lieu of us and imposed on us.  We sit here, we mind our own business; we're doing everything we can to try to muddle our way through the minefield that this country has become.  We're trying to live our lives, follow the rules.  We have these institutions, the federal judiciary now run by leftist nutjobs picking us apart.  And, folks, we have been predicting this is exactly what would become of the judiciary.  This is insurance against election losses for the Democrats and for the left, pollute the judiciary, put a bunch of liberal activists, not judges, on the court, and impose your will by fiat, by way of law.  This is tyranny.  It was easy to predict.  It's tough as hell to stop it.  The court's now just for the most part extensions of the Democratic Party.

I don't know what's happened to Ted Olson.  He's one of the lawyers in this case out in California along with David Boies.  I have no clue.  Ted Olson used to be one of us.  He used to be anti-judicial activism.  I don't know.  As with abortion, liberals are lying about the Constitution.  They dress up their opinions as if they are law and legitimate, then they impose them.  The issue is who gets to make these decisions.  The Constitution lays out the process, but the Constitution more and more is becoming irrelevant to the people who are running this country.

You had one judge.  You had seven million California voters.  This is not the first time California voters have been told that what they did was unconstitutional. 

I don't care whether he's taken pains to disguise or advertise his orientation.  What we have here is a results-oriented liberal judicial judge -- not even a judge, this is an activist -- he has taken 136 or whatever it is, 138 pages to write of his own outlook rather than a fair and faithful reading of the Constitution's text.  This is a personal political preference, a personal policy preference of this judge -- he's not the first -- that's now been codified into law.  This will be appealed.  He even built in his automatic stay in this knowing it was going to be appealed.  It will go to the Ninth Circus, don't know how soon it will get there.  It will go to the US Supreme Court.  Anthony Kennedy will be the target.  And this judge in his opinion doesn't name Kennedy but makes it plain he knows where this is going.  Kennedy is the swing vote on a 5-4 court.  However Kennedy goes on this case is how this case is going to end up, given that there are no further changes in the court between now and the time this case gets there.  You watch all of the attention that will be given and focused on Justice Anthony Kennedy.  

It has basically come down to this:  These totalitarians, statists, Marxists, socialists, whatever you want to call them in whatever place they inhabit are going to advance their agenda regardless of the law, regardless of the traditions and institutions that have defined this country since its inception.  For them the result is all that matters, and the more chaos the better.  In fact, I would go so far as to say that this ruling is not really even about gay marriage.  I mean, that's the end result of it, but what this ruling is really all about and the reason it's being celebrated is that once again a minority -- and this is a political minority-- is able to savor the fact that they've stuck it to the majority again.  That's really what this is about.  That's the end result here.  

It doesn't matter if it's gay marriage.  There's going to be another issue like this that totally violates the traditions, institutions and the Constitution and the law, and they are going to have the same kind of ruling, same kind of test case, and they're going to celebrate it because once again they are destroying the country.  They are destroying the fabric and that's why they're celebrating.  It's hard to understand, hard to get your arms around, people born here who hate it; people born in this country who despise it.  That's propelling all of this.  They've either been raised, educated, or they were just DNA born with this hatred.  However they have it, they've got it, and their aim is to tear it all apart.  And the more you get upset, the more depressed you get, the angrier you get, the happier they are.  This is what they want to create.  Obama's doing a great job of it.  

We hear a lot of talk from the Obama administration about "civil rights." Everything is turned into a civil rights issue -- equal rights, equal protection rights, whatever. Endless things are done against us in the name of civil rights. But what is a more fundamental right -- a fundamental civil right in our system of government in a supposed republic -- than the right to have our voice heard, to have our vote respected? You want to talk about civil rights? It doesn't matter what the people of California vote. If the left doesn't like it, they will use the bastardization of power in this country to reverse it. What about our vote being respected?

The Fourteenth Amendment was never, ever meant to address sex, gender, orientation.  The Fourteenth Amendment's where they are going to talk about equal protection.  There's no historical evidence anywhere to endorse this judge's decision, but he does it.  The Ninth Circuit will be no better.  The Heritage Foundation in its Morning Bell blog today:  "The Obama Elite Versus the American People.

The Obama elite versus the American people. "Specifically Judge Walker overturned the California Marriage Protection Act after concluding, as a matter of fact, that the majority of Californians who voted to protect marriage were bigots who had no rational basis to define marriage on their own terms." He essentially said that marriage exists because heterosexuals have been homophobic and practicing discrimination since the beginning of time. "Here are just some of the 'facts' Judge Walker found: * Religious beliefs that gay and lesbian relationships are sinful or inferior to heterosexual relationships harm gays and lesbians. * The campaign to pass Proposition 8 relied on stereotypes to show that same-sex relationships are inferior to opposite-sex relationships."

Judge Vaughn Walker, California, did not just slap down the will of seven million voters.  Those seven million voters were put on trial, a kangaroo court where everything was stacked against them.  He wanted to make it a show trial.  He wanted cameras.  US Supreme Court said no way.  Seven million California voters, your vote just wasn't overturned, you were on trial and now marriage has been codified as homophobia.  According to this judge, the only reason marriage is between a man and a woman is because heterosexuals have been discriminating against gays because they're homophobic.  So marriage, if this is upheld, marriage is simply codified homophobia.  And the purpose of this, of course, is to just rip to shreds the traditions and institutions that have defined the United States of America.  This "trial," Judge Walker, Judge Vaughn Walker, this "trial" -- and I put that in quotes -- was truly bizarre.  But most importantly the sponsors of the initiative ended up being on trial.  The voters of Prop 8 ended up being on trial. Link

Has any other conservative voiced as strong opinion in defense of marriage as Rush has?

90 posted on 08/14/2010 9:09:37 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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