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To: DesertRenegade

It is a mistake to make homosexuality a political issue.

The government has no business what happens in our homes.

If you give the government such a power it will end up out of your control, with unintended consequences.

Same with supporting the mosque at Ground Zero. The government has no business saying who can build where on private property. If you open that door, we all will regret it.

btw, mother of two, happily married for almost 30 years now. Keep government out of the moral/social equation totally and the dems/liberals will lose political support.


13 posted on 08/14/2010 3:28:09 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough
It is a mistake to make homosexuality a political issue.

They can be as gay as they want, they can shack up however they want, but if they want to use the power of the law to make me recognize it as being equivelent to marriage, that's when I put my foot down and refuse.

Marriage is a union before the creator of a man and a woman, period. Since the government has abandoned recognizing it as being such, they've lost the need to recognize and regulate it as well.

Get government out of the marriage business, since they can't be bothered to recognize what it means.

17 posted on 08/14/2010 3:33:14 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

You’ve got it backwards.

The homosexuals are the ones politicizing the issue. They’re the ones forcing same sex marriage, teaching homo-sex ed in schools, practicing sodomy on street parades, in parks, beaches, etc; forcing “tolerance” in the workplace, hassling the Boy Scouts for not allowing them in their organization, agitating for homosexuals in the military, and on and on - up to and including hate speech and hate crimes.

WE’RE not the ones politicizing it, THEY are! We’re just fighting back, as we should.


19 posted on 08/14/2010 3:40:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"The government has no business what happens in our homes."

But it's not restricted to the home now is it? No...it's shoved in our faces and it has infected every facet of our society and our society is crumbling because of its depravity.

Apparently you have not reviewed the earlier thread regarding this or reviewed the Folsom depravity posted on the first page: http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php

I can't make it linkable because of the HTML code I've used but simply cut and paste and take a look at what you seem to consider 'benign' behavior.

BTW...the mosque at ground zero is a completely separate issue; no less inflammatory but not a good example to use regarding this abomination we are confronted with. That(ground -O-) is another abomination worthy of a separate thread.

21 posted on 08/14/2010 3:48:16 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (We in Missouri spoke LOUDLY 08/03/10 & We peacefully said NO to Tyranny. Are you listening Marxists?)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I agree with you. BOR was trying to paint Beck into a corner, and he was smart enough to respond that he believes that the States should govern themselves, not the feds, not activist judges, not anyone. That is why the Civil War was fought. Contrary to belief that it was about Slavery, it was about States Rights. In fact, It was called the War against Northern Agression in the South.


22 posted on 08/14/2010 3:49:09 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: LurkedLongEnough; Irisshlass; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; ...
LurkedLongEnough wrote:
It is a mistake to make homosexuality a political issue.
Really? The left has done just that, and changed society.
The government has no business what happens in our homes.
Really? So you can kill in private and that is OK? How about rape? Drug deals? Counterfeiting? And how about the government schools promoting this conduct?
27 posted on 08/14/2010 4:23:28 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Keep government out of the moral/social equation totally and the dems/liberals will lose political support.

May I suggest you miss a part of the equation.

Government established by the people under God recognizing unalienable rights endowed the people by the Creator and tasked with protecting such rights can NOT remove itself from the moral equation. To do so would be to retreat from upholding the very basis of our government and individual freedom.

The problem here is not that government is involved in morality -the problem is that government assists those who attempt to redefine it. Instead of government defending we government taking a backseat while at the same time assisting those that in essence seek to destroy that which is unalienable by redefining it...

Society chose to value, reward and protect marriage and family LONG before government came along -government simply carries out social mandate when for instance providing tax breaks for children and or legal standing in many regards between husband and wife. Government did not grant these things just as government did not grant life or liberty. How can government redefine these things that the Creator endowed us with? If the rights emanate from the Creator so do as well the definitions.

41 posted on 08/14/2010 4:41:41 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

“It is a mistake to make homosexuality a political issue.”

I tend to agree more with Reagan, in that our government must be very careful not to endorse such a destructive lifestyle choice. To ratify homosexual ‘marriage’ would be a very dangerous mistake. Reagan was right.


46 posted on 08/14/2010 4:49:40 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: LurkedLongEnough
The government has no business what happens in our homes.

I think the government should criminalize incest with minor children. Apparently you don't.

51 posted on 08/14/2010 5:05:50 PM PDT by cmj328 (Massachusetts Lt. Gov: Write In "Keith Davis, 9 Pheasant Dr., Holyoke" - writeinkeithdavis.com)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
The government has no business saying who can build where on private property. If you open that door, we all will regret it.

Gee I guess you hadn't noticed, they have been doing that for years. Maybe you could ask why the Greek Orthodox church that was destroyed at the site, still hasn't been rebuilt?

Keep the government out of the bedroom was the hue and cry against Judge Bork, in case you have forgotten. Maybe we should also ignore that pedophile that is the bedroom with your child next door?

57 posted on 08/14/2010 5:31:05 PM PDT by itsahoot (Republican leadership got us here, only God can get us out.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough; DesertRenegade

“It is a mistake to make homosexuality a political issue.”

As I understand it, homsexuality was recognised by the American Psychiatric Association as valid as a result of political pressure.... and thuggery!

And, it goes further than that. Their recognition has opened all sorts of nasty doors worldwide, including in South Africa, where gay marriage is now recognised. The powers that be here are quite happy to quote the APA in support of homosexuality - after all, everyone follows what happens in the USA, when it suits them.


93 posted on 08/15/2010 3:59:09 AM PDT by Diapason
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To: LurkedLongEnough

The problem is that homo sexuals would like to push their “morals on the rest of us. The Muslims would like to push their “morals” on the rest of us. The progressives would like to push their ‘morals’ on the rest of us. They are the ones pushing for government control and ‘moral” re-education. Conservatives were happy with ‘don’t ask don’t tell” and other sorts of privacy preserving freedom of conscience common sense notions.

Our erst while “progressive” friends are the ones that want to get in every-one’s heads. The progressives own the government now and the Muslims are counting on a loss of societal moral cohesion so they can move in and take slices of us a little at a time. The progressives think they can use the Muslims as a tool to weaken the conservative judeo-christian priciples and mindsets that built this nation, then at some point take control of the Muslims and bring them under their atheistic umbrella (but they will find that will back-fire). What Muslims hate just as much as Christians and jews are atheists and libertines progressives. Progressives like Bloomberg are Muslims’ useful idiots.

Technically, we have a government that exists by the collective peoples’ consent. Your notion that our government can be kept out of the the “moral/social equation” and stay neutral in those issues belies the reality that the government in the end reflects the voters will and collective morality. Granted, as in the case of Obama, he was able to psychologically present himself as a blank slate so that millions could ascribe their wishes, hopes, and dreams upon him, so that many of these folks voted for him out their internal narcissism. Many of these folks are now disillusioned.

A moral/social civil war has already begun; indeed begun 80 yers ago by the progressives themselves. Now it is in danger of becoming hot!


97 posted on 08/15/2010 5:02:38 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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