Posted on 08/13/2010 1:33:23 PM PDT by Lance Romance
A Metro Police radio recording reveals new details about what happened in the minutes leading up to an officer-involved shooting at a Summerlin Costco last month that left a Las Vegas man dead.
The recording originally was posted on radioreference.com, which broadcasts live public safety audio feeds and archives law enforcement radio recordings. Portions of the audio also have been posted to YouTube.
(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...
“There were immediately excuses about the video. 4 cameras and none worked right? Anyone the tapes were sent to a California forensics lab. Supposedly. “
I think there needs to be protection for the surveilence videos when they are given to the cop, something like the cops have to make a blind copy of it before even looking at it and give the copy back to the client before they even get to look at it. If Costco still had the tape they should be able to share it with whomever they want. Now the tape may be “lost” for the convienience of the police involved.
It sucks that media like this cannot be protected and at least have a copy remain in the hands of private businesses or individuals.
If I had a store and a security system like this you can bet you biddy i would have a backup system that would keep the last 100+ hours of footage on a hard drive that was hidden really well along with the rest of the contemporary recording equipment in case something like this happened or even in the case of recording failure. I guess I am paranoid about retaining data.
>> I think they’re still having “technical difficulties” with the Costco surveillance videos.
Hey, frame-by-frame “sanitizing” of a video like that takes some time!
could you resist the temptation to burn a copy?
It would be on You Tube in a heartbeat.
The fix is in...The Police just need some time to “lose” the videos.
Costco doesn't want those tapes made public. The story they told the police doesn't match witness accounts.
Ah, I knew I could count on you.
I didn’t know the full back story going off the article. Why i used IF.
“I read somewhere that there was some kind of “technical difficulty” with the hard drive the videos were on. I’m curious if anyone saw those videos and then mysteriously died or disappeared. If you worked in the lab, or computer shop, or wherever this hard drive was sent, could you resist the temptation to burn a copy? “
If it were me, I would have, Burned a copy to DVD, Copied it to my MP3 player, given several copies to my friends with instructions should anything happen to me to mail it in to the local news stations, and also instructions for my more tech saavy friends to get it on the “torrents” of the WWW.
LOL!!
Whoa, can I be your friend?
You Tube and various other sites i could find using a laptop paid for with cash from a pawn shop running linux and a wireless connection from a coffee shop.
Yes, I did catch the ‘if’.
But I have problems with HOW this came to the police attention to the point they arrived with guns drawn and HAD TO HAVE THE VICTUM POINTED OUT TO THEM.
How could this guy been ‘violent’ if they couldn’t tell as he exited with the crowd????? What DID that Costco employee say? And why have we NOT seen the video of him in the aisle being violent?? Maybe because he WASN’T?
You Tube and various other sites i could find using a laptop paid for with cash from a pawn shop running linux and a wireless connection from a coffee shop.
Oh and I would park several blocks away from the pawn shop, wear gloves, wear a disguise, and when i used the laptop I would re-configure the MAC on the wireless card. And the cash would be cash that I aquirred by collecting change from fast food restaraunts over a period of several months and wearing gloves while receiving the change and putting into my coat pocket lined with a zip lock bag.
Ok, might be a little too careful here.
Nevada freepers have stated that Las Vegas is VERY corrupt.
There is still the question on the Costco security tapes.
Yes on the tape an officer said a gun was pointed at him, but if they went in thinking someone was waving a gun around then anything can look like a gun (remember the guy in NY that was gunned down for pointing his wallet).
The real problem is that no matter how professional the police were, if the Costco employee gave them embellished information on the initial call than Costco can, and should, still be liable for wrongful death.
” Yes, I did catch the ‘if’.
But I have problems with HOW this came to the police attention to the point they arrived with guns drawn and HAD TO HAVE THE VICTUM POINTED OUT TO THEM.
How could this guy been ‘violent’ if they couldn’t tell as he exited with the crowd????? What DID that Costco employee say? And why have we NOT seen the video of him in the aisle being violent?? Maybe because he WASN’T? “
This is exactly why it is BS for cops to take your cameras away from you when you are filming them. A person has a G-damned right to any photons comming within at least 3 feet around them comming from any distance, also any sound waves in the vicinity of their ear drums as well and the right to record anything their eyes and ears are seeing and hearing. A person has a RIGHT to their memories, even if part of those memories are recorded on an external memory device, be it a tape recorder or a video recording device they are holding or are on their person.
There is no video as yet so, unless you were there, you don't know if that is true or not. It seems that there are too many here on FR who automatically blame the Police. As if there is no crime or crazy people in this perfect world.
There was a transcript of the 911 call on a FR thread several weeks ago. The cops, based on the Costco employee’s description (”berserk, gun, tearing up the store...”) were loaded for bear. I imagine all sorts of images are running through their heads as they race to the store.
There was radio traffic on setting up a command post in a parking lot across the street, etc. So - these cops were paranoid and on high alert.
However, if the situation seemed so huge (command centers, etc.) - why were there only four cops at the exit of the store. And one would think that their observations of the actual events would have given them the REAL information that this guy was not a threat real quick. A Costco employee had to point out the guy to the cops as he calmly filed out with all the other customers evacuating the building.
Idiot cops. Idiot liberal imployee. And an innocent, and upstanding citizen, is gunned down in cold blood. The Costco employee, and the cops, should be held responsible. Too bad the 4 video tapes outside the store, and the one on the aisle where the guy was trying out the bottles and the backpack will be found to have problems after they create them. Hopefully the one Costco employee that was reported to have help load the water bottles back into his cart and get him on his way to the check-out will be honest and brave and come forward.
The tapes will be analyzed to the point they are destroyed or lost.
Out of over 40 witnesses, no one said he pointed a gun at police. Early police statements said his gun was still in it's zippered holster. I have read all that's available on this.
It seems that there are too many here on FR who automatically blame the Police.
Las Vegas is one of the most corrupt places in the country. NO cop has been found guilty of misconduct since 1976. And they kill a LOT of unarmed people. With witnesses present. They all claim "furtive movements". With their hands up? You need to read more about Las Vegas.
As if there is no crime or crazy people in this perfect world.
Not in this case.
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