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To: curiosity
"He happens to be right. A person can be natural born
without being born in the US and without having two citizen parents."

Not according to a framer of the Constitution.

Center column 3rd paragraph down:

Source:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=2
>! you have to turn to page 1291 !>

Bingham states: I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill],
which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the
jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language
of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen… . . –
John Bingham, framer of the 14 amendment in the United States House on March 9, 1866”

Charles Pinckney
Signer of the United States Constitution, Governor of South
Carolina. Senator and a member of the House of Representatives.
“Therefore, we can say with confidence that a natural-born
citizen of the United States means those persons born whose father the United States already has an established
jurisdiction over, i.e., born to father’s who are
themselves citizens of the United States.”
(I have more if you would like.)

"The person just has to be a citizen at birth. For example, a child born of a single US citizen mother, and
foreign father, born abroad inherits his mother's
citizenship, making him a natural born citizen and eligible for president."

Not so.

1952 The Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b).

"Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

"(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

"(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one
of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was
physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than
ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.

Since Ms. Dunham was only 18 at the time that means she Does NOT transfer citizenship to Mr. Obama.
http://www.aca.ch/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=366&Itemid=44

"Farah, as usual, shows his immense stupidity."
Or perhaps you are unaware of the facts because you are wrong on both counts.

37 posted on 08/10/2010 12:27:00 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Not according to a framer of the Constitution.

Framers are not infallible, and the opinions they express on the floor of Congress carry no legal weight.

On the other hand, every single SCOTUS decision that touched on the matter (not to mention the body of English common law, which is the basis of our own legal system) supports the notion that native born and natural born citizenship are synonymous.

If having two US citizen parents is an eligibility requirement, why is it that no one objected to the candidacy of Sipro Agnew? Or Chester Arther? Why is it no one ever inquired into the citizenship status of the parents of a single native-born presidential candidate in the entire history of the United States?

56 posted on 08/10/2010 10:17:39 AM PDT by curiosity
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