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Congressman: Obama 'enjoying' eligibility dispute
WND ^ | August 10, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 08/09/2010 8:55:51 PM PDT by RobinMasters

A member of Congress from California says there's no need for the president to be born in the United States – or to have two parents who are United States citizens – to be a "natural born citizen" and be eligible to be president.

And U.S. Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif., told WND today that he believes President Obama, who's been named as a defendant in multiple legal and other challenges claiming he is not eligible to be president, is enjoying the dispute over his background.

Further, Bilbray said the document that Obama critics should be hunting for is the passport he used when he traveled to Indonesia and other places early in his life.

The controversy over Bilbray's comments developed when a Youtube video was posted. In the video, of a television interview on "The Ed Show," Bilbray said, "It's just like people thinking that you gotta be born in the United States to be president. You don't have to be. That's a legend. We got to clarify that."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bilbray; birthcertificate; britishpresident; certifigate; cowardlycongressman; eligibility; fraud; naturalborncitizen; naturalbornsubject; obama; wndbirtherpimps
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To: mojitojoe; Danae; bushpilot1; All

Sorry about the large posting, I messed up on the sizing.

That’s what I get for rushing ;(


81 posted on 08/12/2010 3:13:31 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (People I know have papers for their mongrels.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; mojitojoe

Perhaps mojitojoe can fix the sizing.


82 posted on 08/12/2010 3:22:47 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Admin Moderator

Perhaps some magic from the almighty Admin Mod can fix the sizing?

These are relevant, because it does prove once again that it was KNOWN once what a Natural Born Citizen is, and today far too many have conveniently forgotten it.

Obama should be in prison for usurping the office of President.


83 posted on 08/12/2010 3:28:35 PM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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To: Danae; Las Vegas Ron
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84 posted on 08/12/2010 4:11:50 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: mojitojoe; Danae; bushpilot1; LucyT
Okay, let's try this again


85 posted on 08/12/2010 4:40:01 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (People I know have papers for their mongrels.)
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To: rxsid; Red Steel; patlin; El Gato; Spaulding

Las Vegas Ron has located the 1771 Edition of the Encyclopedia Brit.

Native, a person considered as born in a certain place which was the proper residence of his parents...


86 posted on 08/12/2010 4:56:10 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
Native, a person considered as born in a certain place which was the proper residence of his parents...

So by that definition, The Won is not even a native. Kenya was the proper residence of his father.

But we already knew that usage at that time hade "native" and "natural born" meaning pretty much the same thing, and it did not mean merely born in the country.

87 posted on 08/12/2010 5:11:41 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: curiosity
LOL. Only a birther would think that a state department inquiry confirming that Obama was born in Hawaii would somehow be an argument that he wasn't.

It was never confirmed. The memo stating he was born in Hawaii, which was a documentation of representation, by either Stanley Ann or Lolo, was dated earlier than the one saying that they still needed documentation of his citizenship status.

88 posted on 08/12/2010 5:17:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: curiosity
LOL. Only a birther would think that a state department inquiry confirming that Obama was born in Hawaii would somehow be an argument that he wasn't.

It was never confirmed. The memo stating he was born in Hawaii, which was a documentation of representation, by either Stanley Ann or Lolo, was dated earlier than the one saying that they still needed documentation of his citizenship status.

89 posted on 08/12/2010 5:17:45 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: curiosity
Not if her marriage to his dad was invalid, which is pretty likely given that he already had a wife back in Kenya when he married Stanely Ann. Under the laws at the time, a single mother of any age would convey citizenship. On the other hand, it's possible that Obama Sr.'s first marriage was a tribal ceremony not recognized by the state, in which case you would be right that she, as a married woman, would be too young to convey automatic citizenship.

Both of those statements only apply to birth outside the US. But the citizenship thus conveyed in either case is not Natural Born, it's via statute, and because Congress only has power to make naturalization laws, it's "naturalized at birth" citizenship.

The 14th amendment doesn't say all persons born in the US and subject to it's jurisdiction are "natural born" citiznes, just that they are citizens.

90 posted on 08/12/2010 5:20:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
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91 posted on 08/12/2010 5:30:47 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Danae; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...
~ Ping ~

See comment # 83, photos at # 85, then read to end of page.

92 posted on 08/12/2010 5:37:58 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

The story that 0thugga is “enjoying” the eligibility thing is a last ditch and transparent effort by his supporters and hirelings to deflect sincere interest and research.

Of course it won’t work. Too many people are honing in on the criminal. Mrs Beard 0thugga is squeezing as much enjoyment and money from her temp position as possible.


93 posted on 08/12/2010 5:57:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: DJ MacWoW; STARWISE

Ping!


94 posted on 08/12/2010 6:13:43 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (People I know have papers for their mongrels.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Thanks for the ping. Good stuff!


95 posted on 08/12/2010 6:18:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Danae; Las Vegas Ron; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; BP2; onyx; hoosiermama; penelopesire; maggief; Liz

What a jerk .. as if the Constitution’s
as trivial as gum wrapper.

VOTE THEM ALL OUT !


96 posted on 08/12/2010 6:21:23 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: CDR Kerchner; Las Vegas Ron

Ping to post #85.

A definition of “native” located in the 1771 edition Ency Brit. As you know native ties into naturels, natural and indigene.


97 posted on 08/12/2010 6:40:54 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: STARWISE

Gads...this guy needs to be on the ‘worn out their welcome’ list and voted out ASAP!


98 posted on 08/12/2010 7:13:27 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: bushpilot1; rxsid; Red Steel; patlin; El Gato; Spaulding; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron
Las Vegas Ron has located the 1771 Edition of the Encyclopedia Brit.

Native, a person considered as born in a certain place which was the proper residence of his parents...

Excellent!

99 posted on 08/12/2010 7:16:06 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Did you ping the idiot who always insists that “native” and “indigene” mean something other than what they mean?

I want to see him say “Gosh, I was wrong - you are right after all!”

;-)


100 posted on 08/12/2010 7:32:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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