Location of Shaoguan
Posted on 08/09/2010 8:05:30 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
China Constructs New Missile Base in Guangdong Province
China reportedly has built a new missile base in the northern Guangdong Province in sourtheastern China.
Chinese local media reported that China's new anti-ship ballistic missile will be deployed to the new missile base in Shaoguan where the new 96166 Unit has been already dispatched.
Dong Feng 21C medium-range ballistic missiles as well as the DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile are planned to be deployed there.
The report added that the new base could "have unique capabilities that could complicate the strategic calculus in Asia, and the South China Sea in particular."
The Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile has been dubbed the "aircraft carrier killer" and is part of China's larger anti-access denial strategy designed to discourage the US Navy from coming to the aid of Taiwan during a war.
AUG 09, 2010
I'm guessing 0bamao's response to the chicom threat will be to ignore it and hope that it goes away.
It’s a ballistic missile, so is killable in boost phase with lasers. Or e.g. the SM-3 could take it out
Point defense against a sea-skimming M10 missile is dicey (if this truly is a sea skimmer) but SeaRAM should be able to do the trick.
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Super! How many sub launched cruise missiles are needed to destroy this base? Double it and let’s go home.
I hope wikileaks doesn't find out about our "aircraft carrier killer" killer.
Anyone who doesn’t believe that China is preparing for war is insane.
I don't see China building anything more than theater defense right now. They are not building true power projection capability...yet.
Whatever their current aspirations, their current capability is limited to a few hundred miles of China.
Even the Vietnamese could substantially damage any attempted power projection in the S China Sea.
How exactly is an air-borne DEW going to get close enough to take that thing out at Boost phase?
SM-3 have a 10% success intercept ratio against MRVs that can’t do terminal maneuvers, the DF-21D KV can perform terminal phase maneuvers.
Do you have reason to believe China can actually HIT a Carrier moving 40kts when surrounded by Ageis and Phallanx?
Assuming it could actually hit the moving target, how could it penetrate the point defenses? Numbers?
“Whatever their current aspirations, their current capability is limited to a few hundred miles of China.”
More like 1000 NM from the Chinese coast. Though it is true that real power projection beyond that distance is impossible without Carriers.
“Even the Vietnamese could substantially damage any attempted power projection in the S China Sea.”
Even by the late 80s, it was evident that the Vietnamese navy was no match for the PLAN in the South China Sea.
Here’s the basic reasoning.
Fine-grained tracking and telemetry of a CBG can be provided by their space-borne NOSS network, underwater SOSUS, and other airborne ISR assets. Positioning updates would be done by the Beidou GPS system that already covers East Asia.
A standard DF-21C has a terminal velocity of Mach 6-7, the DF-21D KV is mentioned by Chinese sources as being substantially smaller then the DF-21C warhead, so a significant terminal velocity increase is plausible.
No current SM block has a high success rate against small, maneuverable hypersonic warheads. The high success rates of the SM-3 were against unitary ballistic missile targets which are more than 10X the size of a MKV.
They don’t need to be buildindg a blue-water navy to be prepping for war. China has no need to project power across the Pacific; any of its aspirations lie across the Soviet border or within the Pacific rim. Their “theater” encompasses a fairly large area.
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Agreed, but they seem to be fixed on the "big dog/big dog" syndrome. They're fixating on seaborne power-projection because that's where we are....... and anyway, submarines not carrier battle groups will be their main impediment in getting to Taiwan.
As for the strategic picture, we ought to be working right now on a high-speed highway/train great-circle link from central Canada (Winnipeg, Calgary) and Alaska to the Russian Far East via the Bering Strait, Chukchi Peninsula, and Yakutsk ..... give the Russians a supply line into the RFE that isn't threatened by China. (The Trans-Siberian is too close to Chinese border.) They also need a second great-circle link from the RFE to western Siberia and the big Russian cities in the Siberian industrial belt and military districts, their safe-reserve staging area.
They're going to have to develop and populate the RFE if they want to keep it. The Chinese are definitely going to try to take it away from them, and they're already mounting a demographic "soft offensive" there.
I don't, but Jeff Head might.
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