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(Apple) Executive Leaves After iPhone Trouble (Antennagate)
NY Times ^ | Aug 7,2010 | Miguel Helft

Posted on 08/08/2010 9:13:10 AM PDT by dayglored

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When the Apple iPhone antenna debacle was a hot item, I predicted that some heads would roll at Apple.

Looks like it's starting. It's not clear whether this fellow is fingered as The Problem, is falling on his sword by choice, or is being ousted against his will.

But "vanished from the site" sounds a little ominous. :)

More on Mr. Papermaster here (wikipedia)

1 posted on 08/08/2010 9:13:13 AM PDT by dayglored
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To: Swordmaker; ShadowAce

Good morning! Pings, please...


2 posted on 08/08/2010 9:14:25 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

He might have been a Papermaster, but he couldn’t do $hit with hardware....


3 posted on 08/08/2010 9:16:58 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: dayglored
Please note that this thread is about a continuing story of how Apple is handling the iPhone antenna issues. Business and technical comment are welcome.

It is NOT an Apple-bashing thread -- anti-Apple trolls (and for that matter pro-Apple trolls) are encouraged to vent somewhere else. NO FOOD-FIGHTS, FLAMEWARS, etc.

Thanks, all!

4 posted on 08/08/2010 9:18:16 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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Seems appropriate, the antenna issue was completely avoidable but it seems clear that other factors overrode good engineering judgement. As the executive in charge of hardware, Mr. Papermaster WAS responsible.


5 posted on 08/08/2010 9:18:47 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: dayglored
NO FOOD-FIGHTS, FLAMEWARS, etc.

Thank You for the reminder
Jim Robinson himself has called a truce on this
No Pro / Anti Flaming

6 posted on 08/08/2010 9:21:23 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: expatpat
> He might have been a Papermaster, but he couldn’t do $hit with hardware....

Actually, the fellow has a long background with IBM doing hardware -- but it's all microprocessors, servers, semiconductors, large systems.

I don't see anything in his background about radio, antennas, or the like. Real curious.

7 posted on 08/08/2010 9:21:53 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored; Swordmaker
Reached on his cellphone

Irony alert!

8 posted on 08/08/2010 9:23:19 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: bigbob
> As the executive in charge of hardware, Mr. Papermaster WAS responsible.

Yep, that's my take also. He may have had nothing to do with the antenna design except that he was overseeing the project, but as such, it's his fall to take. That's what executive responsibility IS.

9 posted on 08/08/2010 9:24:22 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: martin_fierro
>> Reached on his cellphone

> Irony alert!

OMG!! That went right by me! Good catch, Martin!

10 posted on 08/08/2010 9:25:23 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

I’ve seen one or two people here talk of a problem they have with their iPhone4, due to the antenna issue. Other than that, I haven’t found a single iPhone4 person who has had major problems or is unhappy with it.

What I hate to see is people who are cut loose from their jobs, so the corporation can save face, when there really isn’t an issue to begin with.

I’d be curious to know how many people actually took advantage of the Apple iPhone4 plastic cover fix. I didn’t bother.


11 posted on 08/08/2010 9:31:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Latest most accurate Az Poll to date, of 14 likely voters: McCain 137%, Hayworth -37% (+/- 92%))
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To: expatpat

With a name like Papermaster, maybe he can find work at Adobe.


12 posted on 08/08/2010 9:34:23 AM PDT by cynwoody
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> I’ve seen one or two people here talk of a problem they have with their iPhone4, due to the antenna issue. Other than that, I haven’t found a single iPhone4 person who has had major problems or is unhappy with it. What I hate to see is people who are cut loose from their jobs, so the corporation can save face, when there really isn’t an issue to begin with.

Well, I'm not an iPhone user (waiting for an Apple/Verizon deal). But I do believe there is a susceptibility to trouble, due to the wrap-around antenna design, that should never have made it into the released product. A simple non-conductive coating over the bare metal would have sufficed to prevent this before it got into production.

> I’d be curious to know how many people actually took advantage of the Apple iPhone4 plastic cover fix. I didn’t bother.

I would guess that the severity of the problem varies widely with where one is relative to a cell tower. The vast majority of users are in strong-signal areas where degradation won't result in a dropped call.

13 posted on 08/08/2010 9:43:30 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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My home is in a notoriously bad area. Over the years, some of my cell phones haven’t worked at all. With others I had to stand in one place to get reception.

My iPhone3 got excellent reception throughout my home. My iPhone4 does as well.

That’s what baffles me about this claim. I’ve never had a phone that got better reception than these two phones.

You are addressing the right area. I’m just not seeing the problem. Far from it...

I guess that’s why I don’t really buying into the supposed fixes that Appple could’a or should’a done. It’s fine already.


14 posted on 08/08/2010 9:49:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Latest most accurate Az Poll to date, of 14 likely voters: McCain 137%, Hayworth -37% (+/- 92%))
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To: dayglored

The issue was mainly a Public Relations issue. If Apple had included a free bumper from the start, their competitors wouldn’t have had much of a case ; -)


15 posted on 08/08/2010 9:51:14 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: DoughtyOne

In Los Angeles, I know 8 people including myself who have the iPhone 4. None of us have the antenna issue at all.

We don’t know why Papermaster left Apple yet. He may have wanted to leave or was pushed. I wonder if he was the person who said that Apple “knew” about antenna issues. Apple is a very secretive company.

I am an Apple Fangrrl with 5 Macs and many iPhones, iPads, iPods, etc ... but I got my free bumper. Hey, they’re giving away free stuff! I’ll sell it on eBay. I love the elegant look my my unadulterated iPhone 4. It’s a beauty!


16 posted on 08/08/2010 9:52:26 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: DoughtyOne
> You are addressing the right area. I’m just not seeing the problem. Far from it... I guess that’s why I don’t really buying into the supposed fixes that Appple could’a or should’a done. It’s fine already.

Well, there are many other factors that I imagine might contribute to the problem or lack thereof. For example, the conductivity of human skin is a complex function of surface moisture (e.g. sweat), and salt or other ionic content. That varies widely with the person, their body state of health, hydration, electrolytes, etc. and is also affected by atmospheric humidity. Even state of excitement can be a factor.

So perhaps you have fairly dry hands and a calm demeanor, whereas the folks experiencing trouble are anxious, and have sweaty palms?

Only half joking... :)

17 posted on 08/08/2010 9:55:23 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m in Hollywood Hills. My reception with Verizon was spotty. I was with them for years ... no real big issues.

Admittedly, my experience with AT&T is short ... but, so far, they are better than Verison. No dropped calls.


18 posted on 08/08/2010 9:55:30 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: o2bfree
> The issue was mainly a Public Relations issue. If Apple had included a free bumper from the start, their competitors wouldn’t have had much of a case ; -)

The very low percentage of reported problems (down around a percent or so) corroborates your statement.

But you see, tech writers LOVE to bash Apple and Apple products. Anything that smacks of a mistake, or a security issue, or a service issue, is trumpeted to the skies.

Including a bumper with each phone would have masked the problem, but not having bare metal where it could be contacted by the hand would have been even better. A simple non-conductive coating would have prevented this debacle, and I have a bet that the next release this fall will have such a coating.

19 posted on 08/08/2010 10:02:15 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: BunnySlippers

You know what, I love mine bare too. I wouldn’t put anything on it.

I’m not the Apple fan you are, but I do have a history with them. I bought the first Apple Mac on the first day.


20 posted on 08/08/2010 10:05:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Latest most accurate Az Poll to date, of 14 likely voters: McCain 137%, Hayworth -37% (+/- 92%))
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