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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Your emotions are showing. Your spirited offense against Christians is actually funny. At this point there is nothing I can show you that will change your aggressive stance against militant and defensive Christianity

Only the Lord Jesus can do that. Or even reading the Christian fathers.


66 posted on 08/08/2010 2:25:37 PM PDT by eleni121 (But now, he that has a moneybag take it; without a sword let him sell his garment, and buy one.)
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To: eleni121
*I'm* emotional and "funny"? Well, dear, you're hilarious, and nothing if not emotional. My posts are all completely factual and analytical in nature. Wow, talk about someone who just militantly refuses to understand what I am saying and stubbornly remains confrontational in the face of what should be a completely non-confrontational idea. As I said: You continue to insist on making a connection between what I actually said -- that people who were of the Christian faith have of course committed unjustified atrocities and violent acts in the course of history -- with something I did not say, which is that the Christian faith is responsible for these attacks and that these attacks that were made by people (who are, after all, always fallible, even Popes) were somehow being pointed out in order to reflect poorly on the Christian faith itself.

You stated that NO person of the Christian faith has EVER, in the ENTIRE course of history, committed ANY atrocity or violent act. This is statement is simply ludicrous and laughable, absolutely false. Now, you could argue that those people, while they might have claimed to be Christian, were not actually "religious" Christians (as you defined them), because they were not following Jesus' instructions when they did their dirty deeds. And I would say sure! People are people and as such are fallible, some more so than others.

So I was simply repudiating your statement that no Christian person has ever done a really bad thing. Sure some have! There is no denying that. What you are doing, however, is taking this as an affront to Christianity itself. You are interpreting what I am saying as an "aggressive" attack on Christianity, as meaning that it is something less than pure and true, as a derision of your faith. Nothing could be further from the truth.

You need to stop connecting what I am saying about the fact that some people, who happened to be avowed Christians, messed up and did some terrible things, with your adamant defense of your Christian faith. I am not attacking your faith. I am not attacking Christianity. I AM predominantly Christian (though I assume, not as fundamentalist as you), but I was born and raised Lutheran, for crying out loud. Why would I attack my own faith?

I love the way some people here play the "peg" game. From a couple of sentences in a single post, they already have me pegged as a (1) secularist, (2) atheist, (3) militant anti-Christian, (4) RINO, (5) anarchic Libertarian, and who knows what else. I am none of those things, but I am getting a pretty good sense of what you are: militantly confrontational against anyone who says ANYTHING that could even remotely be construed by you as an attack on Christianity.

Except that it wasn't, and your refusal to recognize the factual and quite non-controversial statement that I actually made, and continue to misconstrue it as an attack on you and your (and my) faith alike, is just, well, silly.

69 posted on 08/08/2010 3:42:31 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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