Posted on 08/06/2010 7:48:36 PM PDT by CedarDave
State Police are investigating as a double homicide the deaths of two people whose burned bodies were found in a burned-out camper near Santa Rosa, the state Department of Public Safety said Thursday.
Gary and Linda Haas' bodies was found by a rancher in a 32-foot travel trailer about on a ranch 10 miles west of Santa Rosa and three miles north of Interstate 40. Two well-groomed dogs were also found near the camper, according to a search warrant.
State Police used the contact information on the dog tags to contact the Haases' daughter, who said the dogs belonged to her parents, the court document says.
The couple often stayed in state parks on their trip, including an area near Santa Rosa, the daughter said.
She described the couple as "very self-sufficient" and said both had concealed-carry firearms licenses.
The couple's white Chevrolet pickup pulling the camper was found in Albuquerque through OnStar, but police said there were no video surveillance cameras nearby and no witnesses who could describe any occupant of the truck.
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It's always been rough. Back in the late 70's I was escorting a former lady friend from Tucson to Denver for a job. She was a tall, busty good looking redhead and when we stopped for gas she got out to use the ladies room. When she returned she was harassed by a group of low-life Hispanic males who called her a bunch of names in Spanish. These "macho" types were obviously looking for me to respond so they could up the ante and maybe take me out. She wisely said lets just get in the car and go.
Las Vegas was the town featured in the movie "Red Dawn" and is just as violent as the movie was. BTW, further north in Mora County, the poorest in NM, Anglos are not at all welcome.
If you got a bit west over the mtns into the Espanola/Chimayo area, it is even worse.
Very much true.
You're probably aware, but if not, hotels and motels, especially those on the lower end of the economic scale, are generally loaded with felons, people on the run, the down and out, borderline homeless etc., etc...
Lived in the Espanola valley nearly 10 years. As a very tall, anglo, woman, I did have my fair share of slang words directed at me. But, I think my height was very intimidating; they really seemed to leave me alone. The kids really gawked at me in the store since I was so much taller than the population they were used to.
Look, dragnet, you are fighting an losing argument. I drove these streets for nearly 10 years, 5 days or more a week. I know what I am talking about. There is a strip mall in the middle of nearly nothing. It is not a very developed area outside of the shopping area.
You seem to not be able to comprehend things well.
The age of the community is very relevant to who lives there, and what technology they employee. Unless you have lived in the majority hispanic community in central NM, you really have no idea how to define or comprehend things in regards to it.
Everything I have said on this thread is based on facts from the article, in addition to speculating about a few scenarios of what could have possibly occurred, and the likely options LE have here, in regards to capturing/locating the suspect/suspects.
No doubt the LE is thinking about the same scenarios....If not, they should be, due to the likely fact the burned trailer will probably reveal little or no evidence in regards to revealing the ID of the suspect/suspects.
You on the other hand, have been like calling, "Dial an argument".
Anyone can read back on this short thread and see for themselves.
The Internet makes a great witness.
OH, wait, wait, I get it. You are the Super Knowledge of the internet. When you make suppositions, they are perfect. When someone with first hand knowledge can possibly bring something different to the table for discussion, they must be wrong.
Only you can describe and define the debate, discussion. I get it, oh knowledgeable dragnet. I will be sure to never, ever doubt your perfect knowledge again.
Incorrect.
I commented very early on that it appeared the suspects dumped the victims vehicle in a shopping center, and there could possibly be video of that, and possibly video from cameras from the crime scene to the point what they dumped that truck.
These are not "know it all comments" as you suggested, but comments based on experience, and based on what was revealed in the article.
My only speculation about the victims vehicle being possibly carjacked and taken to a remote spot was just that, speculation. In addition to speculation regarding if this was such a remote camp spot, how did the suspect/suspects get there?
Were there two vehicles, one being the suspects and one being the victims truck?
Again, my comments are based on the article, mixed with some speculation. Clearly the area the victims vehicle was dropped, was not a remote, or under developed area.
We can still be friends can't we?
I really have difficulty dealing with people who can’t comprehend. You have a lot of difficulty with that skill.
Absolutely. I chased bad guys for 30 years..... Now retired, thank God.
I hate motels of any kind and that’s one of the reasons we bought an Airstream.
When we traveled across this beautiful country on a Harley, we had little choice but to stay in whatever motel we found along the way, some nice, some dumps—all full of chemical smells and other peoples germs. Just thinking about it makes my skin crawl.
Our last Harley trip was 9K miles and I swore then that I would never stay in a motel again, unless there was absolutely no other alternative. We like the B&B’s better anyway... when you can find one.
When I am traveling, I’m on guard almost every moment, but some places don’t worry me as much as others.
I now have my trailer and truck set up with 2 generators, a solar panel and two Trojan batteries, such that I could dry camp for as long as I would ever want to. Unfortunately, with all the jerks and threats out there anymore, I don’t feel comfortable with camping in unfamiliar remote areas, especially with my wife with me..... and that pi$$es me off.
Oh well, if I want to save a few bucks, we will occasionally camp at Walmarts, cop parking lots and maybe some churches.
I sure miss the old days when a person could safely cross the country with little more than a pocket knife, water and sandwich fixings. ;>)
Good luck on your trip with the Airstream...Sounds fun...Nice trailer too.
Actually, I don’t Miss.
Again, anyone can read back to see what’s up.
Don't forget the maids shaking down and looting all your belongings the minute ya step out.
lol...
Oh my, didn’t you put me in my place. “Look here, Miss, don’t you dare question me.”
Lets be friends...Oh, and you can question me any time you please!
I just heard on Breaking news that you were right.
Now you know how it feels.
Married couples tend to share interests. Anyone know where we can find real stats as opposed to assumptions?
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