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A stealth 800 Billion dollar stimulus plan by executive order for the sole purpose of winning the November elections...
1 posted on 08/05/2010 9:53:09 AM PDT by Qbert
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Hey Presidential Jackass, I’ve gone without to pay my mortgage. Where’s my pony?


110 posted on 08/05/2010 11:14:59 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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I am so f###### off right now with CA, AZ, judges, MO over in Spain with her mates spending millions of OUR money and then there is the likes of CBS,CNN,NBC, ABC, who are so bias in their reporting.
Now this crap to win an election while they get the illegals legal to get their votes for 2012

WTF is the GOP doing about all of this right now besides shutting up, I still can’t get it as to why the GOP does not tell the media that they’re doing a disservice to their viewers by lying and covering for their messiah


113 posted on 08/05/2010 11:20:56 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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No longer any incentive for personal debt responsibility.


116 posted on 08/05/2010 11:25:56 AM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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>> to forgive a portion of the mortgage debt of millions of Americans who owe more than what their homes are worth

Too bad he can’t bail out the Presidency.


122 posted on 08/05/2010 11:37:06 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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There’s a couple of complications with this idea:

1. Who is holding $1.2T of RMBS paper, including a whackin’ huge amount of Fannie/Freddie paper?

The Federal Reserve.

Forgiving a big chunk of the principle of the debtors’ debt means re-negotiating or re-valuing the RMBS paper. Suddenly, the value of the RMBS paper has to go down. Well, for the Fed, this is a BIG deal - they’re holding so much of this paper, you’d see the Fed take a huge loss literally overnight.

Who is going to make good on that? Well, the Treasury would have to if they’re going to keep the Fed whole and believable. So we can bet that there’s going to be a bailout for the Fed, at the very least.

2. This is probably going to be yet another gift to the banksters on Wall Street, as those banks that hold RMBS paper have been having to write down the impaired value of the RMBS agency bonds on which there have been significant defaults. They’re going to squawk about the drop in the value of RMBS, and articulate some sort of veiled threat like “Oh, if you’re going to do this without making good on those bonds, the only smart thing to do is sell the paper ASAP, which is going to effectively raise mortgage rates, literally overnight.

Well, we can bet our hangie-down parts that ain’t going to happen, so obviously there has to be a backstop in order to keep banksters from selling their RMBS in a fat hurry - in fact, I’d bet that if this trial balloon is real, calls have been made to Wall Street banksters to reassure them that the Treasury needs them to keep holding that paper, and yes, there will be a nice bailout for them in due course.


123 posted on 08/05/2010 11:43:07 AM PDT by NVDave
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So now it’s not just the dream of “everyone deserves to own a home” but now the government, by way of your and my taxes, are going to literally buy it for them?

Stunned doesn’t do my reaction justice.


124 posted on 08/05/2010 11:45:32 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The problem isn't that 1% of muslims are terrorists. The problem is 99% of terrorists are muslim)
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Obama also talked about forgiving student loan debt, by either wiping many loans over 10 years old clean and/or allowing their discharge in bankruptcy.

Not good.


129 posted on 08/05/2010 12:05:29 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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well, If 20% of the morgages are forgiven, then the other 80% needs to revolt and stop paying their morgages,remove all cash out of the banks and claim 20 dependants on your
w-2 form.


130 posted on 08/05/2010 12:06:03 PM PDT by phockthis
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Doesn’t matter if they do it or not. If they cannot get the UN/underemployed number down under 15% they are toast no matter what gimmicks they pull.


131 posted on 08/05/2010 12:07:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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But....but...I thought Bush’s policies were so bad, and were to blame for our current mess? So now, continuing them, ten-fold, will fix the problem?

I’m confused....


132 posted on 08/05/2010 12:08:14 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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We fought tooth and nail to get our home refinanced from 6.5% to 4.62% last year. We had to fork over another $20,000+ in cash avoid PMI and to cover the difference of the new value and closing costs. We cut our mortgage payment by over $400.00 per month. We were told we didn't qualify for HARP because we were current on our payments. So those who are over their heads and cannot pay what they agreed to pay and who did not save enough money to put a good down payment in are now being bought out by our tax dollars.

Life's not fair, and if you have lost your job and can't afford your mortgage, then rent. Why should other hard working Americans always bail out those who lose out? Why should someone keep their home when they cannot pay what they promised they would? Why should banks, and ultimately US, have to take it on the chin for someone else's misfortune? Don't we already provide enough help so that people aren't dying of starvation in the streets?

We are far from rich, but we honor our commitments and we worked very, very hard to be where we are today. We will be the ones who are called on to give even more so that everyone will be equally poor and dependent on the government - just like they want us to be.

136 posted on 08/05/2010 12:12:37 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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What will tell the tale about the survival of the US as we’ve known it is if there are more people who will vote themselves money out of the “government” treasury or more who will not. If a majority will it’s over.

Personally I think it’s over, we are on the downhill run, past the point of no return, and gaining speed.


137 posted on 08/05/2010 12:13:07 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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I don’t see this as a “surprise” that will work.

The people who will get this bailout were never planning to vote in November anyway, and this won’t make them turn out at the polls.

If anything, it’ll backfire because it’ll make those of us who are continuing to pay our mortgages even angrier (and we’re the ones who will vote in November).


138 posted on 08/05/2010 12:13:52 PM PDT by The4thHorseman
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Hmmmm.....since Fannie and Freddie have no funds to actually use to do this, it’s going to add to the deficit, big time.

Doesn’t something like this need to go through Congress?

If this happens, all of us will be paying down mortgages that have nothing directly to do with us - only it will be a tax.

We are so screwed.


141 posted on 08/05/2010 12:14:39 PM PDT by unique
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This latest blatantly political move is proof that Democrats are born either without a brain or a conscience. Or most likely both.


146 posted on 08/05/2010 12:33:05 PM PDT by chuckee
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But they love him.. not sure about that one gal giving him a once over...

U.S. President Barack Obama greets workers during his visit to the Ford Motor Company Chicago Assembly Plant August 5, 2010. Obama used the visit to highlight the turnaround in the U.S. motor vehicle manufacturing sector in the past year. REUTERS/Jason Reed


150 posted on 08/05/2010 12:43:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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Photobucket So our deficit is about to surpass our GDP and we're going to do another bailout? Of course. Must be an election on the horizon.
152 posted on 08/05/2010 12:49:08 PM PDT by xuberalles (The Right Stuff: The Best Anti-Liberal Novelties On The Net ! http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI


155 posted on 08/05/2010 12:53:31 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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Would the forgiven portion of the mortgage debt be considered taxable income by the IRS?


158 posted on 08/05/2010 12:55:41 PM PDT by EdReform (Stop Obamacare - Join the Obamacare Class Action Suit: www.obamacareclassaction.com)
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What about all the people who’ve taken major losses, walked away from mortgages, gone through short sales often paying large deductibles to banks in the process with underwater mortgages since about 1990 which was the first time in the modern era when people lost money on houses?


159 posted on 08/05/2010 12:57:58 PM PDT by wendy1946
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