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To: SmokingJoe; antiRepublicrat; RachelFaith
you did
From post # 59:
“Nokia is by far the world's largest smartphone maker, yet has very little of the US smartphone market. How? Because the US isn't the biggest market”

Not me. I suggest you look again at who posted that... and then apologize.

However, the market is NOT how much you take of it. The market is what it is. Just because you somehow have not figured out how to tap that market does not increase or diminish its size. The market exists. . . and to say that the US market is larger is actually false.

The exploited smartphone share of the smaller US market is currently larger than the exploited smartphone share of the far larger Chinese market is true.

That will rapidly change. Based on PugetSoundSoldier's comments about the grey and black market in Shanghai, and I have little reason to doubt them, it may be truer to state that the currently estimated relative market shares are as described. . . but may actually be in equilibrium or skewed toward China being larger because of the knock off smart phones from the uncounted counterfeits that are apparently ubiquitous everywhere in China.

83 posted on 08/04/2010 2:51:58 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Swordmaker
However, the market is NOT how much you take of it. The market is what it is. Just because you somehow have not figured out how to tap that market does not increase or diminish its size. The market exists. . . and to say that the US market is larger is actually false.

Huh?
Are you back to your Orwellian doublespeak gobbledygook crap again?

Reality:
The US IS the largest smartphone market on the planet, far outpacing the Chinese smartphone market, which is the second biggest smartphone market on the planet.
Canalys:
“The United States smart phone market grew 41% year on year. It is the largest smart phone market in the world by a significant margin, with 14.7 million units accounting for 23% of global shipments in Q2 2010. Android devices collectively represented a 34% share of the US market in the quarter, and with growth of 851% Android became the largest smart phone platform in the country.”
http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010081.html
FACTS are FACTS.

85 posted on 08/04/2010 3:11:40 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Swordmaker
but may actually be in equilibrium or skewed toward China being larger because of the knock off smart phones from the uncounted counterfeits that are apparently ubiquitous everywhere in China.

Chinese factories are known for running two types of shifts: day shifts to make the product the manufacturer requested, and a night shift to make counterfeits of it for local sale.

Aside from those operations, the there is a class of manufacturer in China dedicated to duplicates. They watch the market for anything exciting, and immediately duplicate it as closely as possible using generic hardware and free or pirated software.

IOW, illegal copies can hit the streets in literally days after the introduction of a product. They are sold widely in markets, so brazenly that attempts to shut them down are confronted with protests.

108 posted on 08/04/2010 5:40:32 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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