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To: Swordmaker
Joe, that is not a detailed report

That is all the detailed report I need. We are talking about total smartphone sales and whether companies mention smartphoine sales in their earnings reports or not, remember? This was in relation to whether Chinese companies mention the number of smartphones they have sold in their earnings reports or not. Before that, you claimed that China doesn't tell anyone how many smartphones they sell in that country. I pointed out to you that the big Chinese cell phone companies are traded on American exchanges, and give out about as much information about their smartphone sales as anyone else, and therefore its easy enough for firms like Canalys to work out how many smartphone are being sold in China.
What did you think we are talking about?

81 posted on 08/04/2010 2:37:13 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe; PugetSoundSoldier; RachelFaith; antiRepublicrat
That is all the detailed report I need. We are talking about total smartphone sales and whether companies mention smartphoine sales in their earnings reports or not, remember? This was in relation to whether Chinese companies mention the number of smartphones they have sold in their earnings reports or not. Before that, you claimed that China doesn't tell anyone how many smartphones they sell in that country. I pointed out to you that the big Chinese cell phone companies are traded on American exchanges, and give out about as much information about their smartphone sales as anyone else, and therefore its easy enough for firms like Canalys to work out how many smartphone are being sold in China. What did you think we are talking about?

So you quote a generalized report, lacking any detail at all, from an American company computer and consumer electronic product manufacturing company that makes smartphones as if that were somehow probative of anything at all about a Chinese cell phone service providing company. It isn't. This is your problem. You read into something things that are NOT THERE!

You're assuming the Chinese cellular market model is like the American model where carriers sell the majority of the phones. It isn't. In China, most cellular phones are sold without contracts on the open market by vendors to individuals who then buy their service from a service provider. From what I've read, no phones are sold subsidized in China.

A service provider may or may not sell the majority of the phones on its network... but with the large number of outlets (many multi-story malls in the 300,000 square feet range with hundreds of vendors DEDICATED to just selling cell phones) I can't help but believe that most users buy outside and just find the best carrier deal for their GSM phone by whatever maker they find the best phone price they find. The competition is fierce!

87 posted on 08/04/2010 3:44:52 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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