Posted on 08/02/2010 6:24:35 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
He's on with Hemmer/Martha and he thinks Palin was out of line using 'cojones' to describe what's needed and what the AZ gov has and Obama doesn't!
Rove stinks. And his amnesty push does too.
Thank you. That's about the only comment anybody needs to read in a thread started by a stupid vanity post.
I don't agree with the guy on every single issue. But Jeez Louise, people. Where would we have been without him. He knows how to win elections, and some here are trying to make him into a RINO.
go change your diapers !
LOL. If we can't enforce our laws, then why provide an amnesty?
A sense of propriety in 2010 is calling out a female politician in your own party for using an unlady-like word?
Rove isn’t a RINO. I know him. Read his book.
Pipe dreams. The only thing that can be done is to set out to really enforce existing laws and close the border. No bennies and no anchor babies.
We need as many of them to go home as possible and deport who we can.
Then we decide what to do. The left isn’t going away because of an election. The next president, if GOP, will have a worse time of it than Bush.
So much for his brilliant mind.
The man is a fool and DC insider wanna be .
Who’s going to support all those illegals already on the dole? Other illegals? You?
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Go back and read about how the 1970’s/80’s SEA refugee sponsorship program was structured. Many churches were involved, also small businesses. The goal was grooming refugees to learn American values, learn the language, and to become self sufficient. Why would proposing a similar solution for registered immigrants here, make you so angry?
Maybe you could become a sponsor?
Maybe I could - though I am approaching retirement age, and have already spent the past decade fulltime engaged in raising and educating 2 new freedom-loving American citizens from 2 kids adopted from a 3rd world hellhole, who I agreed to sponsor and raise and support.
I think I’ve done and am doing my individual share. Who have you opened your home to, here in America?
have a great day
Are you going to wave a magic wand? If that were the case, there would be no amnesty. Conferring rights and privileges upon illegal aliens has a corrosive effect on the Rule of Law, the very foundation of our Republic. It is also a slap in the face to legal immigrants who have followed the rules and obeyed the laws. There are millions of immigrants waiting their turn overseas to enter the U.S. legally and approximately 40 million immigrants living in the U.S., most of whom followed the law. Recent polling by Rasmussen has shown that the American people are calling for increased enforcement of our immigration laws. 74 percent of U.S. voters say the government is not doing enough to secure the borders. 73 percent believe that a police officer should automatically check to see if someone is in this country legally when an officer pulls that person over for a traffic stop. 67 percent support surprise raids on businesses to identify and deport illegal aliens. 77 percent are against illegal aliens getting drivers’ licenses.
I propose a middle way, one which we control. Realistically a middle way is the best that will happen.
There is no "middle way," just a right and wrong way. We are either a nation of laws or we are not. You don't reward illegal behavior.
But I forgot, name-calling is an acceptable substitute for substantive commentary on the Internet these days-- even at FR.
ditto
Karl Rove is the face of whats wrong with the GOP. A numbers cruncher with no stomach for a fight.
POLITE DISCUSSION, or rather the insistence that only it is valid, is a major factor in allowing us to have a Clinton, and then an Obama.
And further ...
TODAY, WE ARE AT WAR FOR OUR VERY LIVES AND POSSESSIONS. Few have the patience, or should have, for polite discussions.
Hispanic Family Values? Runaway illegitimacy is creating a new U.S. underclass.
"Unless the life chances of children raised by single mothers suddenly improve, the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. Hispanic immigrants bring near–Third World levels of fertility to America, coupled with what were once thought to be First World levels of illegitimacy. (In fact, family breakdown is higher in many Hispanic countries than here.) Nearly half of the children born to Hispanic mothers in the U.S. are born out of wedlock, a proportion that has been increasing rapidly with no signs of slowing down. Given what psychologists and sociologists now know about the much higher likelihood of social pathology among those who grow up in single-mother households, the Hispanic baby boom is certain to produce more juvenile delinquents, more school failure, more welfare use, and more teen pregnancy in the future."
The government social-services sector has already latched onto this new client base; as the Hispanic population expands, so will the demands for a larger welfare state. Since conservative open-borders advocates have yet to acknowledge the facts of Hispanic family breakdown, there is no way to know what their solution to it is. But they had better come up with one quickly, because the problem is here—and growing.
The dimensions of the Hispanic baby boom are startling. The Hispanic birthrate is twice as high as that of the rest of the American population. That high fertility rate—even more than unbounded levels of immigration—will fuel the rapid Hispanic population boom in the coming decades. By 2050, the Latino population will have tripled, the Census Bureau projects. One in four Americans will be Hispanic by mid-century, twice the current ratio. In states such as California and Texas, Hispanics will be in the clear majority. Nationally, whites will drop from near 70 percent of the total population in 2000 to just half by 2050. Hispanics will account for 46 percent of the nation’s added population over the next two decades, the Pew Hispanic Center reports.
But it’s the fertility surge among unwed Hispanics that should worry policymakers. Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country—over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for every 1,000 unmarried white women, 22 for every 1,000 unmarried Asian women, and 66 for every 1,000 unmarried black women. Forty-five percent of all Hispanic births occur outside of marriage, compared with 24 percent of white births and 15 percent of Asian births. Only the percentage of black out-of-wedlock births—68 percent—exceeds the Hispanic rate. But the black population is not going to triple over the next few decades.
As if the unmarried Hispanic birthrate weren’t worrisome enough, it is increasing faster than among other groups. It jumped 5 percent from 2002 to 2003, whereas the rate for other unmarried women remained flat. Couple the high and increasing illegitimacy rate of Hispanics with their higher overall fertility rate, and you have a recipe for unstoppable family breakdown.
The only bright news in this demographic disaster story concerns teen births. Overall teen childbearing in the U.S. declined for the 12th year in a row in 2003, having dropped by more than a third since 1991. Yet even here, Hispanics remain a cause for concern. The rate of childbirth for Mexican teenagers, who come from by far the largest and fastest-growing immigrant population, greatly outstrips every other group. The Mexican teen birthrate is 93 births per every 1,000 girls, compared with 27 births for every 1,000 white girls, 17 births for every 1,000 Asian girls, and 65 births for every 1,000 black girls. To put these numbers into international perspective, Japan’s teen birthrate is 3.9, Italy’s is 6.9, and France’s is 10. Even though the outsize U.S. teen birthrate is dropping, it continues to inflict unnecessary costs on the country, to which Hispanics contribute disproportionately."
You don’t need to do mass deportations, and you don’t have to let them stay. illegals where/are leaving AZ in MASS just by the threat of the new law.
Go after the source of money (the employers) and enforce current laws and the problem will all but take care of it’s self.
I am all for sponsoring people that want to come here legally, but those here illegally have already proven to me they are NOT the type of people we want coming to our country. We have plenty of our own law breakers. We don’t need them from other countries.
I like Rove too, but on this I disagree with him. He was right right when he said he didn't defend the Bush policies well enough and it applies here as well.
To defend the conservative cause means being tough...and Palin is about the only one doing so!
Keep it up, Sarah!
That really sums it up. The elite RINO’s want to have ‘polite’ discussions with those that want to DESTROY US!! This is war and those that don’t see it need to open their eyes.
Rove is the poster child for what is wrong with the GOP...truly. He’s not alone either, unfortunately. McCain, Graham, Snowe, Collins. Gingrich was falling into the same spot but now wants us all to believe he’s uber conservative because he’s tossing about a run in ‘12 and knows the base hates his guts for his liberal tendancies and his chastizement of us that aren’t ‘polite’ to the libtards while they’re smashing us in the face with a bat.
Rove deals in fractions.
IOW he does not want “the black vote” but just 5% of it.
I suspect the amnesty open borders stance is the same logic.
Rove is paid to win for candidates. (the the original “the candidate” not the fruity remake) Even to this day, you have to hire an effective campaign manager to even be a viable candidate.
Look at huckster.
Bush would have lost in 2004 if it weren’t for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Rove helped the Reps lose control over Congress urging the passage of big spending bills like prescription drugs and no child left behind. Rove also split the Rep party pushing for amnesty, despite the fact that the vast majority of his party was against it.
How well did that work out? Do you know?
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