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To: Juan Medén

He missed his deployment, i.e. he went awol/deserted. The reason why is irrelevant in the courtmartial.


6 posted on 08/02/2010 5:41:49 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar
That is a very good point. Also, to my mind, he disobeyed HIS commanding officer's orders regardless of the status of Obama.

To make a point, my Captain orders me to go to the weapons safe and to check and clean all the rifles. And I say, “I refuse that order on the basis that Obama is a Kenyan.” I don't think that would fly.

Hate to say it guys, but I think this guy is sunk regardless of the fact that he is right in his contention.

I doubt very much that he will get much prison. My mind says, reduction in rank, chaptered out DHD, and a token 6 months serving 3. Or something like that.

They can't do nothing because he is an example now.

10 posted on 08/02/2010 5:51:02 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: GreyFriar
"The reason why is irrelevant in the courtmartial."

The accused is allowed the opportunity to present matters of extenuation and mitigation.

12 posted on 08/02/2010 5:51:52 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GreyFriar

Illegal orders are irrelevant. Case closed.


17 posted on 08/02/2010 6:07:33 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: GreyFriar

Guess you have not been paying attention due to NFl & NCAA games plus episodes of Hee Haw. You lost your country in 2008 - the Saudis and their allies are in control.

LTC Lakin knows our troops are sitting ducks cause intel is being back to our enemies to kill them. This is toi amuse the Saudi King and Islam. Go back to your TV shows and cheap smokes at the PX. Lakin knows what is going on - delusional idiots keep watching TV which is 100% propaganda 24x7 and Fox/Saudia is only marginally better.

Most people are too lazy or stupid to figure out what is going on.


22 posted on 08/02/2010 6:58:30 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: GreyFriar

It is nice to see someone with some common sense here in this site....it has lately gotten to the point of supreme idiocy here...this case boils down to 2 questions and 2 answers....1) were you ordered to deploy? Answer, Yes....2) Did you deploy with your command? Answer, No...you are guilty of missing movement, regardless of the reason..


31 posted on 08/02/2010 7:27:52 AM PDT by joe fonebone (They will get my Fishing Rod when they pry it from my cold dead fingers)
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To: GreyFriar
He missed his deployment, i.e. he went awol/deserted. The reason why is irrelevant in the courtmartial

He did not desert or go AWOL, the technical term is for what he did is "missing a movement". He never left military control, which desertion or AWOL would require.

The "why" of disobeying and order may indeed be relevant to the Court Martial. Illegal or unlawful orders must be disobeyed. That is his defense, and he must be allowed to present it.

126 posted on 08/02/2010 7:05:12 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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