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To: eleni121
To call "communist" the Federal framework of the Second Yugoslavia is a typical theme of Serb chauvinist propaganda. In order to know how "Communist" federalism is, as opposed to "Proletarian centralism", just ask yourself what Obama thinks of the ninth and tenth Amendments to the US Constitution --or, for that matter, of the Constitution itself. Or, if you know anything about the former Yugoslavia, what the hardline Communists there --such as Aleksandar Ranković or, more recently, Veljko Kadijević-- thought of such a "dissolution of the state". The Serb chauvinists have denied, and tried to abolish, the rights of the Republics other than Serbia and of the autonomous provinces as recognized in the Yugoslav Constitution of 1974, only to have 7 of the 8 said Republics and autonomous provinces become independent nations. The extent of those rights was an idea of Marko Nikezić and Latinka Perović, Serb advocates of freedom who were dismissed from the Communist Party in 1972 but whose ideas were then taken up by Tito. In the same way as many states would have refused to ratify the constitution or even to join the Union without the ninth and tenth Amendments, Tito had always understood that recognizing the national rights of all the peoples in Yugoslavia was a condition for its survival, in spite of the unfortunate and ultimately fatal concessions he made to Serb chauvinism. Marko Nikezić, as head of the Serbian Communist Party in 1972, had also advocated and fostered an independent press, a market-oriented economy and the "democratization of decision-making." After his dismissal he became a sculptor and died in 1991. Latinka Perović has become a historian, and is now the doyenne of the "normal" Serbs -- the Serbs who, in the tradition of liberal politicians Dimitrije Tucović and Kosta Novaković, do not deny the rights of the neighboring peoples. Dimitrije Tucović, as the Serbian army had invaded Kosovo in October 1912, warned against the horrors that would befell Serbia as it renounced its fledgeling democratic tradition and claimed as its own such "foreign countries" as Kosovo --2/3 Albanian at the time-- and Macedonia --70 percent Bulgarian, including the southern part that was eventually annexed by Greece. Tucović died in the war in 1915 -- a war where more than 700,000 other Serbs died, and which had been triggered by the Serb chauvinists' claims over Bosnia-Herzegovina: a country which, as Serb chauvinist Dobrica Ćosić recently admitted, was never part of Serbia. Zoran Đinđić, the Serbian Prime Minister until his assassination on June 12, 2003 by Serb chauvinists, was another "normal" Serb. "Normal" Serbs are now represented in the Serbian Parliament by Čedomir Jovanović's Liberal Democratic Party.
19 posted on 08/04/2010 9:18:58 AM PDT by Vincent Jappi ("Just ask Obama if Constitutional federalism is a Communist idea")
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To: Vincent Jappi
You are so boring and trite.

Kosovo is Serbian and will always be Serbian. Every nation has its traitors including Serbia.
In your denseness you equate “liberal Serbians” with respecting the rights of neighboring peoples. Nobody ever denied the Shiptars their rights. As long as these rights are reciprocal a concept which Shiptars have never adhered to. They are muslim criminals after all.

But they do not include illegally seizing and occupying a land that they do not have historic rights to. Albanian alliance with tyrants - Turks and Nazis - allow them no rights to this land.

20 posted on 08/04/2010 1:06:50 PM PDT by eleni121 (But now, he that has a moneybag take it; without a sword let him sell his garment, and buy one.)
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