"We are DEVO!"
Posted on 07/30/2010 5:06:28 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
For generations of pre-med students, three things have been as certain as death and taxes: organic chemistry, physics and the Medical College Admission Test, known by its dread-inducing acronym, the MCAT.
So it came as a total shock to Elizabeth Adler when she discovered, through a singer in her favorite a cappella group at Brown University, that one of the nation’s top medical schools admits a small number of students every year who have skipped all three requirements.
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They forgo organic chemistry, physics and calculus — though they get abbreviated organic chemistry and physics courses during a summer boot camp run by Mount Sinai. They are exempt from the MCAT. Instead, they are admitted into the program based on their high school SAT scores, two personal essays, their high school and early college grades and interviews.
The study found that, by some measures, the humanities students made more sensitive doctors: they were more than twice as likely to train as psychiatrists (14 percent compared with 5.6 percent of their classmates) and somewhat more likely — though less so than Dr. Kase had expected — to go into primary care fields, like pediatrics and obstetrics and gynecology (49 percent compared with 39 percent). Conversely, they avoid some fields, like surgical subspecialties and anesthesiology.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Kalifornia needs more psychiatrists because at least 20% of the population there admits to needing help.
So a white male engineer with a 3.0 average cannot go to med school but a female humanities major can? WTF?
If they waive the requirements for getting in, they can do the same for continuing and graduation.
"We are DEVO!"
...notice the language in some of the quotes....words like “excludes,diminishes,obstacle,barriers,social determinants”
....this is the language of liberal social engineering....personally, I want the best doctor that can save my life...not one who broke down ‘barriers’
Organic chemistry and a blue-eyed blond with an hourglass figure pretty much doomed my initial college career in 1968.
Oh, well. It was time to go overseas and kill communists anyway.
My Doctor told me he couldn’t get in Veterinary School, so
he went into Medical School.
But female humanities majors care so much more than white male engineers.
They should have a notice affixed to their medical license that they are only qualified to treat liberals.
I DO NOT WANT A MORE "SENSITIVE" DOCTOR!!!!
I WANT ONE THAT CAN READ THE DAMNED METABOLIC PATHWAYS CHART, AND READ PRESCRIBING INFORMATION, AND OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT KILL ME..
This is bullshit.
“There’s no question,” Dr. Kase said. “The default pathway is: Well, how did they do on the MCAT? How did they do on organic chemistry? What was their grade-point average?”
“That excludes a lot of kids,”.
Yeah, the stupid ones.
They are doing to med school admissions what they did to the SAT. Certain groups don’t do well on the tests so the tests have to be eliminated.
I didn’t read the article because it’s the NY SLIMES but does it mention the eventual grad rates of those small few who are accepted with out ANY core science classes? I find it hard to believe that those who never took chemistry/biocchem would make it through med school unless med school is also letting them forgo some med classes as well! And no wonder they go into psychiatry.
” In the military, I was treated by many people who (I assumed) were full fledged physicians but turned out to be physicians assistants. At the time, I didn’t detect any real difference and they treated me just fine. “
My current VA Primary Care provider is a PA, and I’m much happier with her than I was with the surly MD they stuck me with before...
“Why on Earth would anyone want MORE psychiatrists?”
...we don’t need them at all...they like the fast money and easy work...they see a patient every 15 minutes and write a script for mind altering drugs...then they farm the patient out to a counselor on their staff for a one hour session...it’s a hi-volume deal for them with less chance of getting sued...lower malpractice premiums means lower overhead.
***So my veterinarian is better trained than these new doctors?!***
It has actually been much more difficult to get into one of the top vet schools vs. medical for some time.
I’ve seen a similar trend in engineering. Engineering schools have made a big push in recent decades to get more women admitted, and they’ve been successful at it. But graduating from an engineering school and practicing professionally as an engineer are two different things. Based on my own observations involving my own company staff, I’d say the women have had a far more difficult time passing the licensing examinations than the men.
Forgot to add that while I believe the MCAT is not needed, taking the core science classes especially chemistry is essential in the basic understanding of of medicine. But we have to remember it’s Brown University.
“They are, like, ‘Wow, I wish I had known about that.’ ”
Apparently, they don’t have to fulfill an English requirement,either.
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