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The State of Michigan is suing Gary Harper for AFDC payments made to a woman named Dorothy Hoose. She had a son in 1988 and named Harper as the dad. There’s just one problem, though; he’s not.
1 posted on 07/29/2010 12:29:35 PM PDT by fathers1
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Sounds fair. NOT.


2 posted on 07/29/2010 12:32:52 PM PDT by Grunthor (My coffee creamer is fat free because I am not.)
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Looks like the law was made to please the biggest supporters of the dems - militant man-hating feminazis. That explains it all. Men have no rights under leftist fascism. Men are only good for their money.


3 posted on 07/29/2010 12:34:15 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (my favorite pastime: annoying liberals)
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The facts don’t matter only the law and we can all feel better with the words of Alcee Hastings where that is concerned:

“There ain’t no rules here, we’re trying to accomplish something. . . .All this talk about rules. . . .When the deal goes down . . . we make ‘em up as we go along.”
—Democratic Rep. Alcee Hastings (Fla.)


4 posted on 07/29/2010 12:34:59 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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“It’s worth asking why the State of Michigan has expended such effort in trying to bankrupt a man it knows has no responsibility for Hoose’s son.”

As you probably know, there’s nothing more dangerous or arrogant than a lazy prosecutor or state’s attorney. “We don’t have to, you lose, pay up or we’ll take everything you own.” The most forceful argument I can think of against mandatory presumptions.

Colonel, USAFR, Esq.


5 posted on 07/29/2010 12:36:07 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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Why go after another fish when you’ve already got one reeled in?

You know, they used to have these things called press gangs...

6 posted on 07/29/2010 12:37:39 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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Men are routinely screwed over in paternity suits. Nothing new.

But you need to come up with better examples than these two losers for anyone to care.

Anytime a man can’t keep his pants zipped up, he invites this kind of trouble.


7 posted on 07/29/2010 12:37:58 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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Any guy can be named the father of any child at time of birth. And just like "that", a guys life can become a living hell.
Some states (CA being one of the worst) will wait until the "arrears" payments reach unpaid for 5 years or the total is $5000.00 or more; it then becomes a federal matter after that if said guy doesn't start to pony up (and believe me, the states know EXACTLY where people are; provided they pay/file their federal taxes; they'll send you a nice certified letter JUST after that five year mark).

Compound this with a "mother" claiming a guy is a father and a case is brought into family court. If the guy cannot be reached to appear (say he lives in a different state); be default, he becomes the legal father. No DNA needed.

"Family" court is a God awful abomination. I escaped it somewhat lighter in the pockets; but with most of my liberty intact.

8 posted on 07/29/2010 12:39:42 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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I was interested in what happened to their parental rights if a mother kept a man’s child secret from him.

Had a friend this happened to. Dated a girl for about a year, broke up and never heard from her again. That is until about 5 years later when he got a letter from her lawyer demanding child support.

He wanted to make sure it was his so he did the DNA test and sure enough it was his. So...he decided to do little checking on this ex girlfriend and lo and behold he dug up some nasty stuff about her and used it against her in court.

He wound up taking FULL custody of the little girl and almost had her sent to jail for numerous charges.

So ladies, if you think you will ALWAYS win this kind of case, beware, you may not like the outcome.

Just sayin...

10 posted on 07/29/2010 12:43:44 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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Is there any possibility that he could sue the woman who LIED to the state and now has inflicted him with sever emotional and financial strain?


11 posted on 07/29/2010 12:44:52 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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. He’d had a one-night stand with a woman 16 years previously.

I never got in much trouble (6 figure touble) with my pants zipped up.

This piker got off easy with just the massive injustice and 5 figure trouble.

Yet another reason to remain single, CELIBATE, and sane.

It only took 3 trips to the cleaners to figure that out.

/johnny

12 posted on 07/29/2010 12:44:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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These men need to seek justice OUTSIDE the legal system, since none exists within it. The evildoers can be harmed as well... financially and/or physically.

It’s relatively easy to do if you have the stomach for it...


19 posted on 07/29/2010 12:55:05 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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I vaguely remember a case in So Cal where a man paid child support for years but after paying it all those years found out he wasn’t the kids dad after all.

I believe he quit making the payments and the DA came after him even tho he could prove it wasn’t his responsibility. DA didn’t care. He was already “on the hook” and had been for years. DA wasn’t the least bit interested in getting this guy’s money back for him either.


20 posted on 07/29/2010 12:56:41 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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Men have no reproductive rights. The woman, because of her gender, is superior ( in the courts, anyway).
21 posted on 07/29/2010 12:56:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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One more reason for young males to remain single. Family courts are not interested in the equities of the situation.


22 posted on 07/29/2010 12:58:09 PM PDT by Timocrat
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Thanks to corrupt lawyers (redundant I know) who become elected officials and judges we no longer have a justice system but legal system and they are 2 completely different animals.

When the weight of government abuse is used on individuals, other than climbing to the top of a tower in Texas, very little can be done.


25 posted on 07/29/2010 1:12:03 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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Here’s a story a little removed from that. I won’t use names but the details are true.

There was a young woman who joined the navy and at the age of 18, she was sent overseas. While stationed at a naval base, she met a marine and fell in lust.

When she became pregnant, she left the navy and the father of her child. She returned to her parents and when the child was born, the father was listed on the birth certificate and the child was given her maiden name.

When the child was eight or nine months old, his mother took him back to her home town where she became reinvolved with a divorced man with two boys. At that time, she sent for a copy of the birth certificate, requesting changes. The first change was the name of the father. The birth father was removed, and her paramor was listed. The last name of the son was changed from her maiden name to her paramor’s last name.

Years later, after a second child and a divorce, the father of the second child was ordered to pay child support, but the woman didn’t want to saddle him with child support for her first child, since she had manipulated the birth certificate.

More years later. The first born of the woman joined the army, while the second born was treated with all the respect due the first child. Second child got child support, braces, contacts, etc. First child was denied contact with his birth father until time for graduation from boot camp.

Because of this woman, her first-born son was denied his rights as a child and young man, to know his father and be cared for by him. As a side note: The father was more than willing to pay child support and set up visitation.

The rest of the story is this: He is married, now, and he doesn’t ever have to worry about being denied anything by his mother ever again. But you can bet he will be an excellent daddy.

If I live to be 100, I will never understand women. And I are one.


26 posted on 07/29/2010 1:12:43 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Welcome home to my awesome army grandson!! Prayers and yellow ribbons for Anoreth of CG fame!)
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Shouldn’t there be a statute of limitations on paternity. If you have a one night stand with a woman, who would want to find out 15 or 20 years later they had a child?


27 posted on 07/29/2010 1:16:56 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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Harper most likely, thought he was the father, was in on the fraud, or did not care about the tax payers getting skinned.

When Harper was served with Order to Show Cause and Petition to establish paternity, he should have answered. An answer coming from a prison ,hand written in pencil on toilet paper will be read by any Judge in America , if for the novelty alone. By allowing a default he da baby daddy , until set aside.

Half stories can diminish the real struggle for the rights of biological fathers, almost as much as false allegations of racism harm civil rights for the truly aggrieved.

30 posted on 07/29/2010 1:20:00 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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First thing I would do if I were a man who got such a letter was demand a DNA TEST...


35 posted on 07/29/2010 1:45:45 PM PDT by celtic gal
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The State of Michigan is suing Gary Harper for AFDC payments made to a woman named Dorothy Hoose. She had a son in 1988 and named Harper as the dad. There’s just one problem, though; he’s not.

"Mr. Harper, you say it can't be your son, but you admit to being in the Hoose gal!"

"Hoosegow, your honor! Hoosegow!"
37 posted on 07/29/2010 1:53:55 PM PDT by Rastus
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