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To: butterdezillion
To find out for sure whether the order is lawful will cost a man his career and perhaps his freedom.

His choice. At the end of the day I wonder if he will decide it was worth it?

Now the military needs to live up to their end of the bargain. He paid the price; now they need to pay up. They say the order was lawful. To convict a man they have to prove that it was.

Why? They didn't need to do that for Michael New, Yolanda Huet-Vaughn, or Michael Watada. Why is Terry Lakin so gosh darned special that every friggin' order given him has to be justified?

In any case I have no doubt that the Army would have no problem showing that Colonel Roberts and Colonel McHugh were authorized to issue the orders they did. You may not agree with them but I don't think that will change the ultimate outcome.

Lakin’s CO acted outside his authority because Joe Biden is the only one the Constitution allows to act as CIC and he did not authorize additional troops to Afghanistan in support of OEF.

In your opinion perhaps.

We’ve gone over those facts multiple times.

You've expressed your opinion multiple times. But facts are not facts merely because you say they are.

Obama failed to qualify by Jan 20, 2009. That is fact.

Obama qualified at a joint session of Congress on January 6, 2008 when they signed off on the results of the electoral vote.

The Constitution gives the presidential powers to Joe Biden. That is fact.

No it isn't.

Joe Biden didn’t authorize the additional forces for Afghanistan. That is a fact.

As vice-president he lacks the power.

Without the CIC’s order neither McChrystal or any of his underlings are authorized to deploy additional forces for OEF. That is a fact.

That is your opinion.

513 posted on 07/30/2010 3:02:49 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

You don’t seem to know the difference between fact and opinion.

If Obama was 5 years old and Congress certified that he received the electoral votes to be the president-elect would that mean he “qualified”?

To be the president-elect a person has to have been certified as the winner by Congress. And yet the 20th Amendment says that a President-elect (already certified by Congress as the winner of the election) can STILL fail to qualify. Obviously “qualifying” is something besides getting Congress to say you won the electoral vote.

Show me where Congress ever said that Obama is Constitutionally qualified to be president. And right after you show me that I will file perjury charges against anybody who signed it, because Hawaii law says the facts of Obama’s birth have never - to this day - been legally determined.

In the eyes of the law, Obama could very well be 5 years old. We have as much legal evidence that he’s 5 years old as we have that he is 49, because we have exactly ZERO legal evidence for either claim.


521 posted on 07/30/2010 3:37:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“At the end of the day I wonder if he will decide it was worth it?”

That may depend on what kind of book deal he can get.


537 posted on 07/30/2010 4:34:42 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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