Posted on 07/29/2010 1:01:40 AM PDT by rxsid
"Press Release: Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition
American Patriot Foundation, Inc.
1101 Thirtieth Street, N.W., Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20007
www.safeguardourconstitution.com
DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR LTC TERRY LAKIN MAKES FORMAL REQUEST TO COMMANDING GENERAL FOR DEPOSITION OF HAWAII STATE DEPT OF HEALTH
Testimony Sought of “Custodian of Records” AND Production of all records relating to President
Decision to be made by Army Major General
Washington, D.C., July 29, 2010. The Army doctor who is facing a court martial for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, has formally requested his Commanding General approve a deposition in Hawaii of the records-keeper of the State Department of Health—and the production of all of their records concerning Barack Obama.
The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii’s Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu. Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino the head of that agency has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the Department’s custody. Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the Department’s records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.
The United States Constitution requires that a person be a “natural born citizen” to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a “natural born citizen”. An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health are an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008.
While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin’s case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary.
Lakin’s request was submitted by his counsel to the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington, Major General Karl R. Horst, under Rule 702(b) of the Rules for Courts-Martial, which provides that “A convening authority who has the charges for disposition or, after referral, the convening authority or the military judge may order that a deposition be taken on request of a party.”
Lakin’s civilian attorney has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, which has established a fund for Lakin’s legal defense to LTC Lakin. Further details are available on the Foundation’s website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com."
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100728.html
You don’t seem to know the difference between fact and opinion.
If Obama was 5 years old and Congress certified that he received the electoral votes to be the president-elect would that mean he “qualified”?
To be the president-elect a person has to have been certified as the winner by Congress. And yet the 20th Amendment says that a President-elect (already certified by Congress as the winner of the election) can STILL fail to qualify. Obviously “qualifying” is something besides getting Congress to say you won the electoral vote.
Show me where Congress ever said that Obama is Constitutionally qualified to be president. And right after you show me that I will file perjury charges against anybody who signed it, because Hawaii law says the facts of Obama’s birth have never - to this day - been legally determined.
In the eyes of the law, Obama could very well be 5 years old. We have as much legal evidence that he’s 5 years old as we have that he is 49, because we have exactly ZERO legal evidence for either claim.
Of course he was not properly vetted. Its not currently required. You have to produce more documents to get a drivers license that you do to become a candidate for President. Party hacks just sign a piece of paper, and in most states it doesn't even have to say that the candidate is eligible. That's why Obama is the legitimate President: he met all of the requirements.
If we had been diligent, we would have years ago adopted rules requiring examination of documents. But we didn't, and now we have this mess. So, fix it. Require the presentation of qualified documents and certification by each Secretary of State that they are original, proper, and substantiate the claim that the candidate is eligible. The candidate's minions can march up to each state capitol, stage a little ceremony while presenting the document, and walk away with a seal of approval. The demands of the Constitution will have been met. No way to dial back the clock, unfortunately.
Obama has no legal age, birthplace, or parents.
To certify means you are taking an oath that what you say is legally true.
If Congress ever certified that Obama is eligible (which I don’t believe they ever have), it would be documentable perjury on their part.
And perjury is not legal. So no, what they did is NOT perfectly legal.
We don’t have to dial back the clock. Right now, there is still no qualifying President. Right now, the 20th Amendment requires Joe Biden to act as President.
This isn’t a wrong that was done in the past. It is a wrong that is going on every second of every hour of every day. It’s gushing oil from a broken Constitution.
We don’t say, “Well, they should have stopped the explosion from happening. Too late now.”
You are getting a little outside your areas of expertise. Let me help.
President Bush went to the Congress and requested authorization to conduct combat operations in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Congress granted him that authority. He then committed troops.
The actual order deploying troops is issued by the Secretary of Defense, but proceeds under the Presidential and Congressional as mentioned above. The services, in turn issue orders that implement the deployment order of the Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates.
President Obama approved the Surge strategy for Afghanistan, but he did not issue the deployment orders for any of the troops sent to Afghanistan. Those deployments proceed under the authorization of Congress.
LTC Lakin received a lawful order as have hundreds of thousands of others. Some who chose to disobey those orders have been tried and convicted for violating lawful orders. Lakin will share their fate.
I had an older brother who served in Germany during the Korean War.
I had two older brothers and a younger brother who served in the late 1950s.
At that time we had 4 of us serving at the same time.
I had a younger brother who served stateside during the Vietnam War.
I have a Son who has been in the Air force for nearly 20 years.
None were injured while serving. I count my Blessings
So if Gates ordered troops to Iran for Operation Blow-These-Bloody-Bastards-Off-The-Face-Of-The-Earth, it would be a lawful order?
Why didn’t Stanley McChrystal just send the 30,000 (or however many he wanted) in to Afghanistan when he needed them? Why did he wait around for Obama to hem and haw and then give him a fraction of what he requested? He could have ordered as many as he wanted, right?
Wow. God bless your parents! And He obviously has. What a testimony.
We will never know what the "political apparatus" or the "people" would have thought because, like Obama, Arthur, successfully concealed his origins, probably, like Obama, with the assistance of the media.
Some were too old or two young at the time.
My Father was born in 1901 so he was too young for WWI.
I am number 13 of 16 so you can see that not all my siblings were the right age to be called in.
One Sister was in the Army Air Force. The other 4 didn’t serve in the military. However some of their children have been in the Armed Service.
Gates ordered troops to Iraq and Afghanistan, operations authorized by Congress. LTC Lakin was ordered to Afghanistan. Don’t try to change the argument.
You and I are of one mind on this point.
Good to meet you, 13 of 16. I’m 9 of 12. lol.
My dad was the only one who served in the military. He was drafted. There are only 2 boys and they’re into farming. My sister married into a military family where just about EVERYBODY was military. Several nephews, including my godson, are either in or going into the military. My godson was just commissioned in the USMC.
Could either Gates or McChrystal have ordered 60,000 troops to Afghanistan without Obama’s permission? Not asking whether that would be standard protocol or would cost them their job. I’m asking whether they had/have the legal authority to do so.
How was Obama’s birth certificate amended? And what amendments are there that could affect his eligibility?
We don’t know what he amended, but if the HDOH is to be believed none of the items included on a COLB has been amended.
My guess is that in 2006 he added a piece of required medical information that had not been provided to the HDOH when the BC was originally filed (probably by Madelyn Dunham) because neither the child nor mother were in Hawaii to be seen by a Hawaii doctor within 30 days after the birth.
He had to add that item because the BC wasn’t complete without it. Until he added it he could not present anything from Hawaii for birth documentation. So he did not present a HI BC to get his passport, to run for Senate, to get his driver’s license, to go to school, etc. If the HDOH has given truthful answers to UIPA requests, Obama has been using some other BC until 2006.
And that other BC is probably what would disqualify him from eligibility - together with the knowledge that neither he nor his mom were seen by a Hawaii doctor within 30 days of birth. Kinda makes the other BC seem more accurate than the HI one that was only finally completed when Obama was 45 years old.
“At the end of the day I wonder if he will decide it was worth it?”
That may depend on what kind of book deal he can get.
Here is the directive that General Eisenhower received in World War II:
You are hereby designated as Supreme Allied Commander of the forces placed under your orders for operations for liberation of Europe from Germans. Your title will be Supreme Commander Allied Expeditionary Force.
Task. You will enter the continent of Europe and, in conjunction with the other United Nations, undertake operations aimed at the heart of Germany and the destruction of her armed forces. The date for entering the Continent is the month of May, 1944. After adequate channel ports have been secured, exploitation will be directed towards securing an area that will facilitate both ground and air operations against the enemy.
He could deploy the forces under his command in support of this directive. The Secretary of Defense commands all of the forces of the United States. He may deploy them within the bounds of his directives from the President. The President does not issue every order. If he had to do that, he wouldn't have time for golf.
But it has to be within the bounds of the President’s directive?
What if there isn’t a directive from the President?
Looking at your blog, it appears you ‘know’ the certificate was amended because of a public statement referring to vital records. Since there is an s at the end of vital records, you deduce there must be multiple birth certificates, which would require an amended birth certificate.
You then asked about fees paid and dates, and were told they would not release info on transactions involving vital records. From that, you deduce that they MUST have copies of fees paid, since they did not deny their existence.
Is that an accurate summary of how you ‘know’ Obama’s birth certificate has been amended?
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