Posted on 07/29/2010 1:01:40 AM PDT by rxsid
"Press Release: Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition
American Patriot Foundation, Inc.
1101 Thirtieth Street, N.W., Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20007
www.safeguardourconstitution.com
DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR LTC TERRY LAKIN MAKES FORMAL REQUEST TO COMMANDING GENERAL FOR DEPOSITION OF HAWAII STATE DEPT OF HEALTH
Testimony Sought of “Custodian of Records” AND Production of all records relating to President
Decision to be made by Army Major General
Washington, D.C., July 29, 2010. The Army doctor who is facing a court martial for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, has formally requested his Commanding General approve a deposition in Hawaii of the records-keeper of the State Department of Health—and the production of all of their records concerning Barack Obama.
The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii’s Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu. Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino the head of that agency has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the Department’s custody. Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the Department’s records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.
The United States Constitution requires that a person be a “natural born citizen” to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a “natural born citizen”. An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health are an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008.
While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin’s case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary.
Lakin’s request was submitted by his counsel to the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington, Major General Karl R. Horst, under Rule 702(b) of the Rules for Courts-Martial, which provides that “A convening authority who has the charges for disposition or, after referral, the convening authority or the military judge may order that a deposition be taken on request of a party.”
Lakin’s civilian attorney has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, which has established a fund for Lakin’s legal defense to LTC Lakin. Further details are available on the Foundation’s website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com."
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100728.html
Show me any place where Lakin was told to make a movement INDEPENDENT of his order to deploy.
His movement was ordered WITH his deployment order. The movement was the first step in his deployment. The whole order was dependent on authorization from a valid CIC.
Show me an order not included in the deployment order that Lakin refused to obey.
They are valid when they carry the delegated authority from the Constitution.
After WWII there were a lot of German and Japanese officers who lost the argument that they were just following orders from their superiors.
The reason the chain of command is taught and followed is to show the authority to give orders. If the chain is broken, the one giving the orders is on their own and are acting under "color of authority". The one giving orders must be able to show how they have the authority to give the order.
I am sure the Courts Marshal will be required to prove the authority before it can be enforced.
Your argument is quite impressive, but could be shattered into little tiny pieces if Mr. Obama or the Hawaiian authorities would publicly release the vital records that they hold. They would probably show that Obama was born in Hawaii, but also probably contain information that Obama is very keen to withhold for reasons unknown. Then he would be the one saying “nanner-nanner-nanner.
But, we all know that’s never going to happen. Neither is your burning desire going to be satisfied. To pretend otherwise is delusional.
I would love to see statutes in all 50 states requiring candidates to submit proof of eligibility before being placed on the ballot. I would love to see the Congress insist that such proof be laid before the Electoral College before a vote can proceed. I would love to see all the stuff about his early life that Obama has gone to such great lengths to destroy, conceal, and keep from the American people. That would help for the future, but nothing is going to fix what has already happened. The milk is spilt, the glass is broken, the genie is out of the bottle, the damage has been done.
Continue your arguments if you wish, but they are not going anywhere. That’s not nanner-nanner-nanner, that’s reality.
I refuse to accept that.
To accept that is to accept the death of this nation.
I will do that over my dead body.
“... but could be shattered into little tiny pieces if Mr. Obama or the Hawaiian authorities would publicly release the vital records that they hold.” I’m curious just how it is that you KNOW such documents exist which would be definitive answers? It is a well documented FACT that Hawaii allowed none Hawaiians to obtain ‘legitimate’ Hawaiian birth certs, and we have Obama’s own testimoney (indirectly of course, via the books Ayers wrote for the dullard) that his father was a Kenayan citizen at Barry’s birth, which circumvents your entire effort to shill for the bastard boy should the SCOTUS ever rule on Natural Born Citizen requirements.
I think that I will go have lunch. Have someone let me know if your body assumes room temperature while I’m out. Be safe.
The HDOH has already indicated that they have amended records which claim that Obama was born in Hawaii. We know that either the “date filed”, certificate number, or both have been altered and that the note of the amendment has been removed.
Aside from those changes I have no doubts that the genuine COLB for Obama would look like the one on Factcheck. He amended it so it would say what is on the Factcheck COLB. But the Factcheck COLB had to be forged to hide the fact of the amendment.
And it is the fact that it is amended which makes it legally deficient. For it to mean anything legally the evidence on which the amendment rests has to be seen. People don’t just change the facts of their birth when they’re 45 years old. That raises suspicions.
I believe, for reasons I will not yet state publicly, that Obama’s birth certificate was only COMPLETED in 2006. Before that, Hawaii had nothing they could even print out for him.
If true, that means that his passport had a birth certificate from somewhere else, which he also used whenever he had to produce documentation. Until he was going to run for the presidency, the documentation he had was good enough. It was good enough for him to run for the Senate, for instance.
Why would his documentation to run for the Senate not be good enough for him to also run for the presidency?
First paragraph should say: “We know that ON THE FACTCHECK COLB, either the “date filed”, certificate number, or both have been altered and that the note of the amendment has been removed”
I don’t know if such documents exist. I was just engaging in idle speculation. I’m not shilling for anyone, just pointing out the inconvenient fact that Obama is the President of the United States. The possibility that he may not be eligible to hold that office is neither here nor there. There are now only two ways to remove him from office: impeachment, or at the ballot box. I’m working on the ballot box angle.
Really, no case was never brought prior.....,hmmmm???
I imagine he does. Whether there is anything dangling below it is another matter.
The simplest explanation is that he was born in Hawaii. Things do get complicated when we try to ponder why he would then go to such lengths to avoid releasing the pertinent documents. Your explanation is quite fascinating, as are several other speculations, but I doubt that we will ever get our hands on the evidence.
Unfortunately, fraud committed by public servants is quite common in our country, especially when so much is at stake. Wherever Obama may have been born, he certainly engineered a fraud against the people of the United States, representing himself as something he clearly was not. The remedy available to us comes in 2012.
The Electoral College voted on January 8, 2009. What cases were brought before that date and how were they decided?
Him being born in Hawaii is not a simple explanation because it wouldn’t explain anything we observe.
If he was born in Hawaii he would not have needed to amend his BC and the HDOH and other agencies wouldn’t have to be hiding rules and breaking laws, and Obama himself would not have to post a forgery.
None of what I have seen makes sense unless Obama was born outside Hawaii.
If Obama was going to be “embarrassed” by what was on his birth certificate, then why wasn’t he afraid of being embarrassed by it when he ran for the US Senate?
Thank you for a fine job you are doing following the footsteps of Miss Tickly. However, you are wasting your precious and productive time by debating the fifth columns and the distracting FINOs showing up every time to discredit your work in order to keep their dear usurper leader in the W.H. in office at any cost, instead of working in unity to remove this criminal. Worse, even a few “military”(?) “defectors” participates in muddying up the issues!!!
Have you ever heard about Andy Martin and Phil Berg???
Never heard of them, how’d those cases turn out?
As a ten year FReeper veteran and never heard about this, very surprisingly:
On October 17, 2008, Martin filed a lawsuit against the state of Hawaii calling for the public release of Barack Obama's birth certificate and other vital records.
IIRC at least eight cases!!!
When Fukino stated that at least one of Obama’s multiple birth records claims he was born in Hawaii, that meant that she has to show the record on which that statement was based. If she wanted to keep that record private she shouldn’t have made a public statement about it.
Bingo!
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