Posted on 07/29/2010 1:01:40 AM PDT by rxsid
"Press Release: Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition
American Patriot Foundation, Inc.
1101 Thirtieth Street, N.W., Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20007
www.safeguardourconstitution.com
DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR LTC TERRY LAKIN MAKES FORMAL REQUEST TO COMMANDING GENERAL FOR DEPOSITION OF HAWAII STATE DEPT OF HEALTH
Testimony Sought of “Custodian of Records” AND Production of all records relating to President
Decision to be made by Army Major General
Washington, D.C., July 29, 2010. The Army doctor who is facing a court martial for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, has formally requested his Commanding General approve a deposition in Hawaii of the records-keeper of the State Department of Health—and the production of all of their records concerning Barack Obama.
The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii’s Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu. Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino the head of that agency has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the Department’s custody. Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the Department’s records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.
The United States Constitution requires that a person be a “natural born citizen” to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a “natural born citizen”. An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health are an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008.
While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin’s case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary.
Lakin’s request was submitted by his counsel to the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington, Major General Karl R. Horst, under Rule 702(b) of the Rules for Courts-Martial, which provides that “A convening authority who has the charges for disposition or, after referral, the convening authority or the military judge may order that a deposition be taken on request of a party.”
Lakin’s civilian attorney has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, which has established a fund for Lakin’s legal defense to LTC Lakin. Further details are available on the Foundation’s website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com."
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100728.html
Why do you think Obama didn’t use a US passport to travel to Pakistan?
It's correct to what I said to you. Getting away with it doesn't set precedent as law. Chester Arther who hid the truth that he was not eligible for office from the public and who burned his personal papers to keep evidence/proof away from the public. You don't like it but it is a fact.
Let me quess, your one one those people that think the gay ninethies(1890’s) meant everyone was homosexual in the 1890’s. Or perhaps in the 1960’s the free sex movement meant they didn’t want to pay for sex. To understand the meaning of the wording of the constitution ,it is sometimes necessary to understand the cultures thay were wrote in.
More BS! It is common to speak of winning a Medal of Honor.
Here you go:
“Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama “
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwjykFzqSM
FR thread: Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama
Why would elected and appointed Republican state officials lie for a Democrat?
All of the Hawaii officials being accused of lying are appointees of Governor Linda Lingle (who herself has confirmed that Obama was born in Honolulu). Governor Lingle endorsed John McCain and gave a nominating speech for Sarah Palin. Why would she lie for Barack Obama, particularly when the Governor wants to be the next Republican Senator from Hawaii.
It makes no sense.
As I wrote, I have read many documents of the time. You are wrong in your claim.
While we are at it, why don’t you explain, in the culture of the 1700s, what a natural born subject was?
As I wrote, I have read many documents of the time. You are wrong in your claim.
While we are at it, why don’t you explain, in the culture of the 1700s, what a natural born subject was?
"Vital records" does not necessarily mean birth certificate, or Certification of Live Birth.
Right off the bat, no attorney would allow a bureaucrat to invoke personal data about someone without ascertaining what kind a document that information was actually derived from.
the constitution says “natural born citizen” NOT
natural-born American citizen.
An extra hyphen and the word American change the meaning.
Its an “I did not have sexual relations with that woman trick”
“natural-born” hypenated is a *medical* not a legal expression.
that Obama is an American citizen is *not* the point, he has to be a Natural born citizen, period.
This king of legal trick won’t work, we already know leftists have no shame about twisting and torturing words to confuse the TV watching folks.
More BS I say! lol. touchy there! Perhaps close to being exposed?
Politicians do lie and Lingle did lie here.
“Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama “
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwjykFzqSM
And yet in over a year, nobody and I mean absolutely nobody has even tried to indict Hawaiian officials for making false statements.
Was it under oath in a court of law? Because lying is not a crime or the Democrats would all be in jail. To paraphrase your party's mouth piece for Obama Robert Gibbs, For $15 dollars, you can say anything you want on the Web... speaking in the context of Obama's fraudulent Hawaiian COLB.
So, what would happen if Obama were to wake up tomorrow morning, call a press conference and admit that he was not a natural born citizen and therefore not eligible to be President. Absent a resignation, would not the only way to remove him from office be via impeachment? And would the courts not hold that until an impeachment trial passed judgment, he would hold all of the authority as well as the Office of President? Mr. Clinton didn’t have to step aside just because the Congress decided to impeach him and the courts do not have the authority to pass judgment on a sitting President even if he admits to a crime.
History is replete with many individuals who stood up for principles that the majority was either too scared or too "professional" to support.
I don't suspect that the masses on active duty is going to be vocal about their opinions on this matter since doing so is probably punishable under the provisions of the UCMJ.
Regardless, the whole thing is being kept quiet simply because Obama probably does not have the Constitutional right to hold office, and his lackeys in the military hierarchy are probably privy as well. Even Supreme Court Clarence Thomas made a remark about Obama's questionable validity.
Those who know that Obama is a fraud number more than you, Rogers and the rest of your camp are willing to acknowledge herein.
And furthermore, this federal government willfully will not enforce the federal laws on the books. Just see the case of Arizona vs. The United States [Obama and Eric Holder, judge Bolton et al]. You expect sincerity, and that they do their sworn duties to uphold the US Constitution? I expect malfeasance.
the constitution says “natural born citizen” NOT
natural-born American citizen.
An extra hyphen and the word American change the meaning.
Its an “I did not have sexual relations with that woman trick”
“natural-born” hypenated is a *medical* not a legal expression.
that Obama is an American citizen is *not* the point, he has to be a Natural born citizen, period.
This king of legal trick won’t work, we already know leftists have no shame about twisting and torturing words to confuse the TV watching folks.
Dr. Fukino is not a “leftie.” She was appointed to her position by the Republican Governor of Hawaii who herself has confirmed Obama’s birth in Hawaii while endorsing John McCain for President and giving one of Sarah Palin’s nominating speeches at the Republican National Convention.
The determination of whether Barack Obama is an Article 2, Section 1 natural born citizen was made by the US Congress in joint session when they certified Obama’s electoral votes and no one out of 535 members of Congress raised an objection. Furthermore Obama was sworn in an President by the Chief Justice of the United States.
Obama’s status as natural born also could have been challenged before he ever was on the ballot in any primary states or before the general election. It was not challenged.
Obama himself wrote a best selling book about his father not being an American citizen and he wrote that book 12 years before he announced his candidacy for president.
Here’s what a conservative Republican Federal Judge appointed by George W. Bush had to say in throwing out an attempt to get at Obama’s birth certificate by another Army officer who refused to deploy to Iraq:
“A spurious claim questioning the President’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.“–US Federal District Court Judge for the Middle District of Georgia, Clay R. Land in dismissing “Rhodes v MacDonald” September 16, 2009
Its a British term, applied to subjects of the British crown. Its very familiar to me because I am a British “natural born subject.”
Natural Born citizen is an exclusive term from Vattel’s “Law of Nations”, used in the constitution to remove the possibility of a president with dual allegiance by picking as eligible only those citizens born to citizen parents in the territory of the nation.
Politicians do lie and Lingle did lie here.
“Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama “
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwjykFzqSM
And yet in over a year, nobody and I mean absolutely nobody has even tried to indict Hawaiian officials for making false statements.
Was it under oath in a court of law? Because lying is not a crime or the Democrats would all be in jail. To paraphrase your party’s mouth piece for Obama Robert Gibbs, For $15 dollars, you can say anything you want on the Web... speaking in the context of Obama’s fraudulent Hawaiian COLB.
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle (R)
“And if, at common law, all human beings born within the ligeance of the King, and under the King’s obedience, were natural-born subjects, and not aliens, I do not perceive why this doctrine does not apply to these United States, in all cases in which there is no express constitutional or statute declaration to the contrary. . . . Subject and citizen are, in a degree, convertible terms as applied to natives, and though the term citizen seems to be appropriate to republican freemen, yet we are, equally with the inhabitants of all other countries, subjects, for we are equally bound by allegiance and subjection to the government and law of the land.” - James Kent, COMMENTARIES ON AMERICAN LAW 1826
“Every person born within the United States, its Territories, or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural-born citizen of the United States in the sense of the Constitution…Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England; that is, within the ligeance, or, as it is generally called, the allegiance of the King; and aliens are such as are born out of it.” …… “It makes a man a subject in England, and a citizen here, and is, as Blackstone declares, ‘founded in reason and the nature of government’ … The English Law made no distinction … in declaring that all persons born within its jurisdiction are natural-born subjects. This law bound the colonies before the revolution, and was not changed afterward.” - Rep. Wilson, 1866 Civil Rights Act debates 1866
No, the birthers are.
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