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LTC Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition
safeguardourconstitution ^ | 7/29/2010 | American Patriot Foundation

Posted on 07/29/2010 1:01:40 AM PDT by rxsid

"Press Release: Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition

American Patriot Foundation, Inc.
1101 Thirtieth Street, N.W., Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20007
www.safeguardourconstitution.com

DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR LTC TERRY LAKIN MAKES FORMAL REQUEST TO COMMANDING GENERAL FOR DEPOSITION OF HAWAII STATE DEPT OF HEALTH

Testimony Sought of “Custodian of Records” AND Production of all records relating to President

Decision to be made by Army Major General

Washington, D.C., July 29, 2010. The Army doctor who is facing a court martial for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, has formally requested his Commanding General approve a deposition in Hawaii of the records-keeper of the State Department of Health—and the production of all of their records concerning Barack Obama.

The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii’s Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu. Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino the head of that agency has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the Department’s custody. Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the Department’s records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.

The United States Constitution requires that a person be a “natural born citizen” to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a “natural born citizen”. An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health are an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008.

While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin’s case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary.

Lakin’s request was submitted by his counsel to the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington, Major General Karl R. Horst, under Rule 702(b) of the Rules for Courts-Martial, which provides that “A convening authority who has the charges for disposition or, after referral, the convening authority or the military judge may order that a deposition be taken on request of a party.”

Lakin’s civilian attorney has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, which has established a fund for Lakin’s legal defense to LTC Lakin. Further details are available on the Foundation’s website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com."

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100728.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; lakin; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: edge919

Take it up with Tim Adams. He’s the one who said it.


221 posted on 07/29/2010 12:45:43 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: edge919

Please read post 217. It looks like a validation to me.


222 posted on 07/29/2010 12:46:33 PM PDT by imfleck
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To: El Sordo

... and you repeated it, so what’s the right answer??


223 posted on 07/29/2010 12:46:33 PM PDT by edge919
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To: centurion316
There is a tradition of over 200 years standing against serving soldiers engaging in partisan politics.

Except LTC Lakin didn't take an oath about that and he does not see it that way. However, his oath of office is to defend the US Constitution which has been around as long as the US Constitution.

224 posted on 07/29/2010 12:48:41 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: El Sordo

Like someone who will say Gee let’s get Obie’s BC right here on the table in front of us

You know, the one made out of paper

not a scan


225 posted on 07/29/2010 12:50:41 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: verity
"Actually, I am urinating on your leg and you think it is raining. How much longer do you wish to keep this up? "

Really? No...seriously, really? Do you need to lower yourself to such a level?

226 posted on 07/29/2010 12:53:08 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: imfleck
Please read post 217. It looks like a validation to me.

This statement wasn't made in June 2008, and second, it doesn't say Obama's alleged COLB is genuine.

Keep in mind the director of the DOH has full discretionary and statutory authority to reveal any information she chooses from a vital record.

First, she refused to identify which vital records she was referring to, and second, she tipped her hand that Obama's alleged COLB is not genuine. The ONLY document that verifies place of birth is an original birth certificate, thus the ONLY record Fukino needed to cite was the original birth certifice. She did not. Instead, she cites 'vital records' (plural) meaning that either there are secondary documents, which would indicate the Obama's COLB had to be amended or that these are records unrelated to the COLB and have no known legal weight. Third, she makes sure to tell us that this statement is separate from an earlier statement that WAS about the original birth certificate, meaning the vital records in question are not original birth records. So, no, it does not validate the alleged COLB, nor does it legally confirm Obama's place of birth. It's basically tricky hearsay designed to fool gullible faithers and sandheads.

227 posted on 07/29/2010 12:55:23 PM PDT by edge919
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To: El Sordo
“So, you just believe everything out of Obama’s mouths that gets repeated by an uncritical, fawning press corps?”

Is that the best you can do?

“What are you, some kind of Obot?”

No, I suspect Obama is about as eligible to be POTUS as I am, a total foreigner.

“Obama said he went to Pakistan, so it must have happened!!”

I believe it happened, but he didn’t use a US passport to do it, hence my suspicion of an Indonesian passport, used after the voting age, itself enough to disqualify Obama.

228 posted on 07/29/2010 12:56:39 PM PDT by Exmil_UK
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To: imfleck

ROFLMAO


229 posted on 07/29/2010 12:57:17 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: edge919

The HI DOH did not validated Obama’s alleged COLB. This is simply a false claim. The DOH spokesbabe said it looked like her own (not exactly an official way to verify a legal document), but later admitted she couldn’t say for sure whether it was genuine or not.


This sounds very much like a validation and a declaration of Obama as a natural born American citizen to me:
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009

I’m wondering what part of the word “verifying” and the phrase “born in Hawaii” you do not understand?


230 posted on 07/29/2010 12:58:11 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: centurion316

>> I would vote for conviction.

For reasons of professional integrity and tradition? Not to disregard these honorable traits, but are you suggesting these factors are relevant to the case?

In your opinion, does LTC Lakin’s argument have any merit?


231 posted on 07/29/2010 12:59:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Red Steel
Except LTC Lakin didn't take an oath about that and he does not see it that way. However, his oath of office is to defend the US Constitution which has been around as long as the US Constitution.

You've made this point before, and its still incorrect. Obama has the same Constitutional standing as did all of his predecessors including Canadian born Chester A. Arthur. The Congress of the United States certified his election and he was sworn in by the Chief Justice of the United States. Until some competent authority other than you says otherwise, he is the President and properly serves as the Commander-in-Chief. I don't like it, but that's the fact.

232 posted on 07/29/2010 12:59:10 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: jamese777
I’m wondering what part of the word “verifying” and the phrase “born in Hawaii” you do not understand?

What part of "not based on the original birth certificate" do you not understand??

233 posted on 07/29/2010 12:59:34 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yes CMOH certainly means he was brave on the battle field

So how about now saying “Sure, if our President is not qualified then he can’t issue orders, so let’s spend $12 and check it out?!”

That’s the kind of fortitude I was hoping for.

What is wrong with asking for our president’s qualifications, it’s just a small scrap of paper. He said he had it. Let’s take a really quick look ....


234 posted on 07/29/2010 1:00:25 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: imfleck
"Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwjykFzqSM


FR thread: Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama

235 posted on 07/29/2010 1:00:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: centurion316

You’ve made this point before, and its still incorrect.


236 posted on 07/29/2010 1:01:08 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: edge919

The Indiana Court recognized both that the WKA decision did not constitute a binding ruling about NBC, and that their reasoning led to the conclusion that he was.

The WKA dissent recognized the implications and disagreed with them, as I do. However, it was not a binding conclusion and I’ve admitted such. But the arguments used by the decision have influence many that followed, so by the mid-1900s it was commonly accepted that someone born in the USA was a NBC.

There have always been those who disagreed, but a person can reach that conclusion without being a fan of Obama. My passionate views on abortion, 2nd amendment rights, illegal immigration etc cause me to abhor Obama, while my honesty makes me admit that on this issue, I believe he is correct - he is a NBC.

Of course, Obama isn’t loyal to anyone or anything apart from himself, but that is the fault of those who voted him in, not the Constitution.


237 posted on 07/29/2010 1:03:09 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: jamese777
Here you go:

"Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwjykFzqSM


FR thread: Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama

238 posted on 07/29/2010 1:03:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: edge919

What part of “not based on the original birth certificate” do you not understand


My God, are you illiterate? What part of “ORIGINAL vital records” didn’t you understand.
One more time for the Special Education student:
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009


239 posted on 07/29/2010 1:04:06 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Gene Eric; Mr Rogers
">> Medal of Honor winner

winner?

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Excellent point! Raises doubt about the poster's credibility.
As if the CO obtained it by way of some lottery process or as a raffle prize or something.

240 posted on 07/29/2010 1:06:13 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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