http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/07/27/rel10f1a.pdf
CNN are liars. A rigged poll. Keep watching TV folks because it supports this brainwashing and propaganda.
The GOP and the right has got to make this point very clear.
This whole “immigration debate” is about MAKING DEMOCRAT VOTERS OUT OF ILLEGAL ALIEN FELONS AFTER GRANTING THEM AMNESTY.
And the answer to that is not no, but HELL NO, and also make it clear that if the socialists succeed in MAKING DEMOCRAT VOTERS OUT OF ILLEGAL ALIEN FELONS AFTER GRANTING THEM AMNESTY, their CITIZENSHIP AND RIGHT TO WORK WILL BE REVOKED AND THEIR ASSES DEPORTED AND THROWN IN JAIL as soon as the GOP takes over Congress and the Presidency.
This is a god damned war, we need to fight this marxist dirty trick to the last man.
America is Dead.
They sure had a full day padding their own poll...I’m sure they’re exhausted.
Coming from CNN, I’m not surprised. I don’t trust anything that comes out of that hole.
Did the question start off: "Research indicates that lawn service prices could double..."
I'm actually puzzled that the numbers are that high. Maybe they'll change when the unemployment rate goes up to 20%.
57 percent of Americans say the main focus of the federal government in dealing with the issue of illegal immigration should be developing a plan that would stop the flow of illegal immigrants into the country and deporting those already in the U.S. That's 15 points higher than the 42 percent who say developing a plan that would allow illegal immigrants who have jobs to become U.S. residents
A Solution to the Illegal Immigration Problems A Final Solution. |
Theres been talks about how horrible and disastrous Arizonas new immigration law, which has been described as making it a crime to be an illegal immigrant, but now theres something even more radical on the horizon. Representative Duncan Hunter has expressed his support of deporting the children of illegal immigrants. Yes, his solution is to get rid of all the so-called anchor-babies along with their parents. I can hear the cries of people protesting this radical idea of enforcing our existing laws with the punishments already proscribed for them. Its truly amazing what a little lack of reading comprehension coupled with an inability to think in terms of logic can do to people. The first section of the Fourteenth Amendment, which would obviously be brought up, says he following: The capitalized portion is quite key here, the AND is a disjunction operator; speaking in the abstract notion of sets [think Venn diagrams] it is the intersection of two sets and NOT the union thereof. So, we must understand what subject to the jurisdiction thereof means. The thereof is obviously referring to the United States, so the people in question need to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Jurisdiction means, simply, legal power. So we are left with the group of people that are both born in the United States and who are subject to its legal power Are illegal aliens subject to the legal power of the United States? Some people would, in an attempt for humor or perhaps just to be jerks, say Only if they get caught. But lets think about this for a bit; if someone is not subject to the legal powers of the US then they could do illegal things with impunity quite literally getting away with murder. [And some do, that is perhaps the thing that most sparked Arizonas adoption of the aforementioned immigration law.] But we have some illegal immigrants in jail, right? So that means theyre under the United States legal powers, right? Unfortunately not. Just because a jury acquits someone who is later found to be guilty of that crime does not give the government license to prosecute him again for that crime does not mean that because that individual got away with it does not mean that ALL future findings of guilt of that sort of crime are invalid. Likewise, just because one illegal immigrant gets away with it does not mean that ten, twenty, a thousand, a million, or more should also get away with it; to adopt such a position would utterly undermine any and all conception of the rule of law. In a similar manner, just because one, two, fifty, or a thousand are caught does not mean that they are, as a group, subject to the laws of the United States. Especially if you talk to Border Patrol personnel and hear about people that have been caught multiple times and sent back; yes there IS a lot of repeat offenders in the illegal immigrant demographic. So, as you can see neither determination of subject to the jurisdiction is intuitive; as neither work well at all. But lets look at the effects of the determinations thereof, if the anchor babies are determined to qualify as citizens then the state has two options when deporting the parents: either send the American-citizen child with them [to avoid breaking up families], or to make the child a Ward of the State [to avoid exiling American citizens who have broken no law]. Neither of those will be good on the political front; if you avoid breaking up the family you are [in effect] abandoning him and abridging ALL his rights as a Citizen. However, if you forbid the illegal immigrants the custody of their biological child you are cruel and heartless. In the case of non-qualification then the whole family is deportable and can be deported as a single unit. This does contain the distasteful contradiction that the deportation thereof IS the subjugation of those involved to the legal power of the united states. Is there a solution that doesnt involve a contradiction? Yes; but you wont like it. People will call the idea everything from fascist to heartless to insane to regressive. The answer is a simple reading of the Thirteenth amendment, which says in its first section, the following: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT AS A PUNISHMENT FOR CRIME WHEREOF THE PARTY SHALL HAVE BEEN DULY CONVICTED, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Thats right, make the punishment for being an illegal immigrant into slavery/involuntary-servitude for some definite length of time [unlike felons being disbarred guns for life, even after serving their sentence]. Perhaps the length of time in the US illegally or the amount of money and services received from the taxpaying citizen should be used to calculate the length of the servitude. This DOES solve the problem of either breaking up families or wrongfully exiling American citizens but many will find the idea too distasteful to bear. |
roflmao you cant get 94 % of the people to agree on picking up free dollar bills growing from trees...
Gee!
Can’t say I didn’t tell you so.
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CNN has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they cannot ever be trusted.
Their Iraq sham should have caused them to lose any broadcast license they have.
They are a left-wing propaganda outlet and nothing more. Nothing they broadcast can be relied upon as anything more than left-wing agenda promotion.
Online polls are worthless BS. that’s why I ignore the “Freep This Poll!” threads. Anybody can freep a poll. If we freeped it the other way, it’d still be BS.
When they say “Americans”, do they mean they polled people in Central America?
Conservatives need to stay away from this question.
FOCUS!!!
Secure the Border!
No negotiation on comprehensive reform until the borders are secure!
A CNN poll has the worth of a poll in communist Soviet Union under Stalin,
There's no way on earth that 94 percent of any group favors something. That's completely unreasonable given the differences in dozens of demographic and ideological factors.
I do not want any of the SOBs here. They were educated and socialist, maxist and communists. I do not want them affecting our elections or creating our laws. As for Mexicans you have done a fine job fucking up Mexico stay there and fix it.
Regarding this poll, I would believe Pravda before anything CNN pukes up.
The Mexicans are so hypocritical. If we started letting 500K Chinese drift into California every year the Mexicans there would go nuts. They would be the FIRST to demand a stop to it.
The Mexicans ought to be glad their not speaking Japanese right now. Those lazy ingrates got that one as a freebie from the US Army, Marine Corps, etc...
What crap.
60% of the sample makes up <20% of the voting public...and this isn't even REGISTERED voters.
WE NEED A NATIONAL RALLY FOR THE 1070 IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT LAW THIS SATURDAY..or soon.