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To: Old Teufel Hunden
No, you will not find the phrase “freedom of conscience” in the U.S. Constitution; you will perhaps become familiar with the phrase if you read the Federalist Papers or the writings of our founders. Please avail yourself of the opportunity to learn what our founders meant by the phrase.

Should a non Muslim in Deerborne Michigan be made to feel as if the government is a Muslim institution that recognizes Muslim holidays, but not their religion?

If you were going to court as a non-Muslim, testifying against a Muslim, and the Court had a display of the Quran on the front of it; would you think that the court was perhaps stacked against you?

Do you really think that among the limited and enumerated powers of the government, that putting up sectarian religious displays is among them? Do you feel that recognition of the majority religion of the local community is the proper role of government?

95 posted on 07/26/2010 1:28:51 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
"you will perhaps become familiar with the phrase if you read the Federalist Papers or the writings of our founders. Please avail yourself of the opportunity to learn what our founders meant by the phrase."

What most of them consistently said is encapsulated in the first Amendment. Notice how the first starts off with "Congress shall make no law". Now the three things it forbids Congress from doing is:

1. Establishing an official religion
2. Prohibiting free exercise of your religion
3. Taking away your right to speak freely of your religion

Please show me where a community deciding to have a manger at the municipal building violates any of the above three principles? Show me a writing in the Federalist papers or the founders that expands upon the above three principles that would prohibit a public display of religious symbols? I don't know of any. You refer me to the Federalist papers, I refer you back to them and show me where they speak against a community allowing a public display of religious symbols.

"If you were going to court as a non-Muslim, testifying against a Muslim, and the Court had a display of the Quran on the front of it"

You do realize that since the founding of this country, courts have had the ten commandments displayed in the courtroom? We already bend over backwards for other cultures and societies. But you have to face one simple fact, this country was founded upon the religious principles of Christianity. From John Winthrop forward. The majority of our founders were religious and mostly Christian. They did not want to get "the religious" out of our daily lives. They just did not want to force everyone to have to worship the same way (as in England). You are falling into the same trap as those of the left and the ACLU by getting "freedom of religion" mixed up. The goal was not to take religion out of our public lives, it was to take the force of government out of religion.
97 posted on 07/26/2010 1:48:30 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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