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Obama Commission Will Call for Trillions in Tax Hikes
Townhall.com ^ | July 24, 2010 | Floyd & Mary Beth Brown

Posted on 07/24/2010 3:35:33 PM PDT by jazusamo

Obama debt commission member, Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, launched a scary trial balloon on ABC News. Gregg suggested the debt commission will likely recommend a massive $26.7 trillion tax increase. Here are Gregg's actual words:

"Everything has to be on the table - there's no question about that... Erskine Bowles, one of the co-chairmen of the commission, has suggested a 75-25 split -- 75 percent of the savings being in spending, and 25 percent in revenues... I think it's likely that there will have to be a revenue component, but it should be significantly, dramatically -- and a 3-1 ratio is pretty dramatic -- dramatically less than the initiatives in the spending side of the ledger."

According to an analysis by Americans for Tax Reform if Bowles wants $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax hikes then the tax increases will be larger than anyone expects:

"Bowles and Gregg can only be talking about cutting $3 in promised Social Security and Medicare benefits in exchange for $1 in tax increases. In other words, 1/4 of the unfunded liabilities of Social Security and Medicare would be paid for with tax hikes. So how big is that? According to the 2009 Social Security and Medicare Actuaries' Report, the long-run insolvency of the Social Security and Medicare systems is $106.8 trillion (with a "t") over the infinite horizon. To close this gap with one-quarter tax hikes is, therefore, to raise taxes by $26.7 trillion. Of course, this number is undoubtedly higher since the Obama Administration is sitting on (read: hiding) the 2010 version of the report (it's nearly six months overdue)."

On the heels of a huge tax increases included in the over-2000-page ObamaCare package, together with over-2000-page so-called "Financial Reform Package," together with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, Obama's economic policies have guaranteed a double-dip recession.

Strap on your safety belts, because the anemic economic recovery of 2010 is about to become a government-induced second recession or double-dip in 2011. This outcome is baked in the cake even before any tax increases from the Obama debt commission are enacted.

If they are so greedy as to also try -- by passage of a climate control bill -- increases in energy taxes then this second recession will likely lead to deflation and a collapse into a government-sponsored depression. The economy cannot afford more money being redirected from investments toward government spending.

Clearly from this evidence alone it is plain to see that Obama isn't judging his success based on a record of economic growth, but instead he is pursuing a program of economic redistribution. The administration has no focus on expanding the economic pie; instead, they are concerned with devouring every piece of the pie.

Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform, has been watching the Obama debt commission closely, and he concluded after hearing reports of Sen. Gregg's comments:

"It's been clear from the beginning that the purpose of this Commission was to put GOP fingerprints on a tax hike, likely a VAT... Gregg seems to be giving them all ten fingers... The true agenda of this commission has always been to hide the ball on a tax hike until after the November elections - hence the December reporting date. Gregg's gaffe today tips their hand,"

Higher taxes are never the answer. With the economy so weak, Congress should be making the Bush tax cuts permanent. Taxes on capital formation and investment should be eliminated all together. America should be encouraging small business, individual investors and entrepreneurs to be taking risks to increase economic growth in the private sector. Instead, Obama and the socialists in Congress are embarked on a dangerous expedition to punish success. This will end badly.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: obama; roadtosocialism; taxes
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1 posted on 07/24/2010 3:35:36 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

not before the midterms.


2 posted on 07/24/2010 3:38:53 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: jazusamo
This is the powder keg folks. I don't know about you, but I have no intention of complying with this crap.


3 posted on 07/24/2010 3:39:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: jazusamo

And how many cuts will they recommend - actual or just slower rate of growth?


4 posted on 07/24/2010 3:39:30 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: jazusamo
75-25 split -- 75 percent of the savings being in spending . . .

Heard that broken record way too many times.

yitbos

5 posted on 07/24/2010 3:39:41 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: jazusamo
"Erskine Bowles, one of the co-chairmen of the commission, has suggested a 75-25 split -- 75 percent of the savings being in spending"

Like that's ever going to happen!

6 posted on 07/24/2010 3:41:10 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: jazusamo

That’s about $89,000.00 per capita, or about $180,000.00 per working adult.


7 posted on 07/24/2010 3:42:15 PM PDT by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be considered racist...")
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To: jazusamo
It's been clear from the beginning that the purpose of this Commission was to put GOP fingerprints on a tax hike, likely a VAT... Gregg seems to be giving them all ten fingers... The true agenda of this commission has always been to hide the ball on a tax hike until after the November elections

No question. And the f*ing republicans are colluding like hell. One thing you have to hand obama, this is the most transparent scam he has pulled to date.

8 posted on 07/24/2010 3:42:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: jazusamo

Did you really expect anything else. This commission was designed to give Obama cover.


9 posted on 07/24/2010 3:42:19 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: jazusamo
"If they are so greedy as to also try -- by passage of a climate control bill -- increases in energy taxes then this second recession will likely lead to deflation and a collapse..."

....of the gov't.

10 posted on 07/24/2010 3:43:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: bruinbirdman; WHBates
Heard that broken record way too many times.

That's right, it aint gonna happen.

11 posted on 07/24/2010 3:43:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: JohnBrowdie
Remember obama's comment recently about the "hard choices" he will throw at us "next year?"
12 posted on 07/24/2010 3:43:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Bon mots

But as you may expect, only the working will pay the tax. The rest will get more programs.


13 posted on 07/24/2010 3:44:32 PM PDT by P.O.E. ("Now who's being naive, Kaye?" - M. Corleone)
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To: jazusamo
75 percent of the savings being in spending,

How can they save if they've already spent it!

14 posted on 07/24/2010 3:44:39 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: jazusamo
Make it quadrillions!

That way, we can pay off the national debt, triple all entitlements, and there will still be enough left over to ensure that nobody will ever have to work again!

Woo Hoo!!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

15 posted on 07/24/2010 3:44:59 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Roklok

There is absolutely no where for Obama to hide. His poll numbers are tanking and the American people are furious.


16 posted on 07/24/2010 3:45:13 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: Bon mots

May the USA R.I.P.


17 posted on 07/24/2010 3:46:36 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: jazusamo

We need a Free Republic Commission to call for trillions in spending cuts.

Or we need the Tea Party to continue its campaign — at a very aggressive pace.


18 posted on 07/24/2010 3:49:24 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Let's Roll
"how many cuts will they recommend - actual or just slower rate of growth?"

The Obammunist's stimulus was $800+ billion. He won't get that in the next budget. That's a 50% deficit decrease right there.

So the proposition is actually $1 of spending cuts for $1 of tax increase or 50-50.

Then, they will say since they cut the $800B, they can't cut anymore. We will be left just with the tax increase blamed on Bush cuts.

Don't fall for it.

yitbos

19 posted on 07/24/2010 3:50:42 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Can you say “Guaranteed Tax Revolt”? Sure you can.


20 posted on 07/24/2010 3:50:54 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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