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Are Workers Trading Down ?
The Portland Tribune ^ | 7/22/2010 | Steve Law

Posted on 07/23/2010 3:37:45 PM PDT by ex-Texan

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What has been lost cannot be regained. Jobs lost were lost forever. Traitors in business and government sent all our jobs overseas. IMPO they deserve to be lined up and dealt with by the lawless elements in our society. Chaos is surely coming our way.
1 posted on 07/23/2010 3:37:49 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: TigerLikesRooster; M. Espinola; Travis McGee; LomanBill; Smokin' Joe; Quix; FromLori

*Ping* !


2 posted on 07/23/2010 3:39:44 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan

That’s right, send them all to the Gulag . . . eh, comrade?


3 posted on 07/23/2010 3:40:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ex-Texan

Conservatives tend to hate the idea that companies can be traitorous, but all the outsourcing and so on just flat out is. Sure it’s good for the short term, but they’re killing the golden goose. Frankly, they’ve already killed, roasted, and ate it.


4 posted on 07/23/2010 3:41:20 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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...rich nations to poor.

That seems to be the way it's working out.

5 posted on 07/23/2010 3:41:36 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, - W Churchill)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama
Down with the bourgeois ping!
6 posted on 07/23/2010 3:42:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: M. Espinola
We all need the BS removal kit. LOL, LOL !

Obama Bumper Sticker Removal Kit -

7 posted on 07/23/2010 3:45:06 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Mike Darancette

Sometimes it is a zero sum game, sadly. The tide’s lifting the but the US is weighed down by lousy government and businesses.


8 posted on 07/23/2010 3:45:46 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: ex-Texan

No it was helped a lot by idiots who watch TV. TV, hollywood and the lib newsmedia put the marxist in power. Idiots still watching ball games where the NFL, NCAA, MBL, NBA and ESPEN endlessly fawn over him. I cancelled TV over a year ago.

Fox/Saudia - partially owned by the Saudis.


9 posted on 07/23/2010 3:48:05 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Tolsti2

I’m not sure if it’s so clear cut.

If the choice is between keeping manufacturing jobs in the US with union employees, government environmental restrictions, and going out of business,

or moving manufacturing jobs abroad so you continue to employee American management, office workers, sales representatives, truck drivers, and give payments to your retiree American stock holders, option B is a bit better.


10 posted on 07/23/2010 3:48:10 PM PDT by MNDude (Ask the Native American's how their "Open Borders" policy worked out for them.)
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As a result of the decision to discontinue the Sterling brand, the St. Thomas, Ontario, plant will cease truck manufacturing operations in March 2009, concurrent with the expiration of the existing agreement with the Canadian Auto Workers members employed there. The plant manufactures Sterling medium- and heavy-duty trucks.

DTNA will also close the Portland, Oregon, truck manufacturing plant in June 2010, when current labor contracts expire. Western Star commercial production will be assigned to the company’s Santiago, Mexico plant, while production of Freightliner-branded military vehicles will take place at one of the company’s manufacturing facilities in the Carolinas by mid-year 2010. A migrating supplier base and high logistics costs have had a major impact on the cost of production in this location.

press release, October 14, 2008.

Funny, no word on those evil Carolinians for stealing Oregon's jobs (not that I saw).
11 posted on 07/23/2010 3:51:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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dittos — Free trade NAFTA WTO has always been a scam where the elites make billions and US workers lose jobs. All those jobs sent to Asia would come in handy right now

I would have put up a tariff wall years ago


12 posted on 07/23/2010 3:52:00 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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American works can't compete against the stacked deck overseas of no medical care, no environmental laws, no safety laws and $3.00/hr wages.

Free trade under those circumstances is nothing less than suicide.

13 posted on 07/23/2010 3:53:28 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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American workers can't compete against the stacked deck overseas of no medical care, no environmental laws, no safety laws and $3.00/hr wages.

Free trade under those circumstances is nothing less than suicide.

14 posted on 07/23/2010 3:53:47 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Tolsti2
Conservatives tend to hate the idea that companies can be traitorous, but all the outsourcing and so on just flat out is. Sure it’s good for the short term, but they’re killing the golden goose. Frankly, they’ve already killed, roasted, and ate it.

Not to worry...We are a superpower when it comes to lawyers. More lawyers and less manufacturing.

15 posted on 07/23/2010 3:54:41 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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I would have put up a tariff wall years ago

Your friends in the U.S. Congress are working on it:

Mexico's decision to impose tariffs on dozens of U.S. products could cost Oregon exporters tens of millions of dollars.

Last one standing wins, isn't that what the retards say?
16 posted on 07/23/2010 3:56:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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It’s pretty obvious that the business and government elites consider tariffs as the ultimate no-go. Why? It would produce more jobs here and cost them an arm and a leg. Result? Dead middle class.


17 posted on 07/23/2010 3:56:46 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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That story is about Mexico imposing tariffs for their own benefit it seems. Kinda proves the point, doesn’t it?


18 posted on 07/23/2010 3:57:53 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2
It’s pretty obvious that the business and government elites consider tariffs as the ultimate no-go. Why? It would produce more jobs here and cost them an arm and a leg. Result? Dead middle class.

The converse is true
Tariffs mean a larger more powerful American middle class involved in manufacturing, engineering and design plus all the businesses that support manufacturing such as accountants.  And less powerful elites and fewer billionaires. These tariffs should have been put in 20 years ago. I was reading books on this 23 years. But greed, dishonor and laziness won out.  Let the Asian slaves make it for us cheaper was/is the attitude

19 posted on 07/23/2010 4:03:58 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: ex-Texan

I don’t know about that.

Business was lost because workers were too greedy. Think Unions and union wages.

Business was lost because the government was too greedy. All the regulations and “law like rules” handed out and used to harass business.

Business was lost to the environmentalist progressives over the past few decades.

Business was lost to overseas...because elements in our culture made and forced business to choose friendlier places to do business.

Business didn’t go to Galt’s Gulch, but they went Galt.


20 posted on 07/23/2010 4:04:01 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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