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Climate bill on the ropes
Politico ^ | July 20, 2010 | Darren Samuelsohn

Posted on 07/21/2010 2:11:59 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 07/21/2010 2:12:00 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

We hear this on every piece of Obama/Peloi/Reid’s radical agenda, then some RINO dumbazz comes along and helps them pass it.


2 posted on 07/21/2010 2:14:30 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: neverdem

It doesn’t matter the dick head in chief will just executive order the enforcement, in fact already has.


3 posted on 07/21/2010 2:14:46 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: neverdem

Hey Harry!
Just which “problem” do you believe this bill is “solving”?

Are you ignorant enough to believe you can legislate a change in the climate?

This bill is ONLY a wealth tranfer scheme that shuts down American industry and costs jobs


4 posted on 07/21/2010 2:16:47 PM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: MissesBush
"We hear this on every piece of Obama/Peloi/Reid’s radical agenda, then some RINO dumbazz comes along and helps them pass it"

Exactly! These leftists get everything they want eventually.

5 posted on 07/21/2010 2:18:15 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: neverdem
a formula they favor for distributing valuable emissions allowances

Any way you cut it, the consumer is the one who is going to pay should they ever succeed at passing this idiotic legislation. It's a tax.

6 posted on 07/21/2010 2:19:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Free the First!)
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To: neverdem
They'll pass their entire Christmas list in the lame duck session after the November elections.

And the GOP won't have the guts to undo it all.

7 posted on 07/21/2010 2:22:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: neverdem

“It’s the economy, Stupid!” —JAMES CARVILLE, 1992


8 posted on 07/21/2010 2:23:57 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: neverdem

similar tactic used prior to the Christmas break to get the health bill passed.

first acted like they just couldn’t make it happen, and then stood up as if in a glorious struggle and said they had to get it done.

start with low-key defeatism and then shift into high gear when everyone lulled.


9 posted on 07/21/2010 2:26:46 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: neverdem; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Show of hands — how many reading this actually believes it? I mean, the partisan media shills wouldn’t lie to the public ten times in a row about how this or that agenda item wasn’t going to even make it to a vote, would they? Thanks neverdem.


10 posted on 07/21/2010 2:31:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: neverdem; markomalley; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Nipfan; Amagi; rdl6989; Tunehead54; Clive; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

11 posted on 07/21/2010 2:35:01 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: neverdem

Obama has got everything he has wanted so far. he could get this Bill through as well. Just make sure that it’s over 2000 Pages & that no one has read it. And tell Americans how great it will be when it passes so that we can all find out whats in it. Piece of cake.


12 posted on 07/21/2010 2:48:52 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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Reid said Tuesday that he’s still contemplating a bill that involves “something on utilities.” And he also continued to look to Republicans, support from some of whom he’ll need to get 60 votes.

That should be easy. Reid hasn't had any problems yet finding Republicans to help him pass his garbage legislation that's killing our economy.

13 posted on 07/21/2010 2:55:08 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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“Short of that, they pressed for similar language friendly to their cause, starting first with a formula they favor for distributing valuable emissions allowances.”

The problem we have is too many collaborators who want to work with the Nazis. They don’t give a crap because they’ll just pass the cost of Cap & Tax onto consumers. They are as much enemies of freedom as is the fascist rat party. This needs to end one way or another. Either you’re for freedom or against it.


14 posted on 07/21/2010 2:56:53 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: MissesBush
We hear this on every piece of Obama/Peloi/Reid’s radical agenda, then some RINO dumbazz comes along and helps them pass it.

Exactly! That piece in American Spectator about the ruling class had it absolutely right. There's no stopping these creeps until or unless we can get them out.

15 posted on 07/21/2010 3:38:33 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: EternalVigilance

“as they try to cut a deal with the industry”

As I see it, it’s a win/win deal for the power industry. It won’t cost them a thing. They are, I believe, regulated by Public Utility Commissions. I’ve operated a water company for almost 30 years, and owned a piece of it for several years. The PUCO allows us profits on a percentage basis. They allow us slightly more than 10% profit. So if we sell a certain quantity of water for a dollar, our profit, set by the PUCO, is 10 cents. If suddenly, our costs increase, due to government regulations, and that same quantity of water now has to sell for a dollar and a half, our profit, at 10%, would be 15 cents. And we pass the 35 cent extra cost on to the consumer.
At least that’s the way it appears to me. I have carefully avoided any aspects of bookwork/rate increase applications, etc.. I have my hands full running the plant and system, and being on 24/7/365 call. Haven’t had a vacation in ten years.


16 posted on 07/21/2010 3:46:10 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SunkenCiv
It's just a tactic by the Ruling party ...helps keep the Country people in their proper place....

Where was that article....looking for it...help.

17 posted on 07/21/2010 3:47:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

:’) I’m lazy, otherwise I’d help.


18 posted on 07/21/2010 4:54:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: neverdem

Again I ask: Ask your congressperson:
Since we are trying to become independent from foreign oil, Why would we want to become dependent on foreign carbon credits?

And when they can’t give you an answer.
Petition your congressperson to declare CO2 a non pollutant.


19 posted on 07/21/2010 5:04:46 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: neverdem

RAWR!

The Equilibrium of the Earth’s Greenhouse Gas Effect has been proven.

The paper is here: http://multi-science.metapress.com/content/c171tn430x43168v/?p=3d211da283af4ae19d59f421cbacf46b&pi=8

I have a full copy of the paper, and it UTTERLY disproved AGW. The IPCC says that the greenhouse effect is what Arrhenius stated it is back in the 1890’s. It can change depending on the makeup of the atmosphere. In other words that adding more CO2 or DECREASING CO2 could make a difference.

This paper PROVES THAT THEORY WRONG. There is a theoretically derived description of the Greenhouse Gas effect, that is Miskolczi found in looking a a very large number of data sets. The RAW data. Whats more, that theoretical figure MATCHED OBSERVED figures!

I have been trying for days to get this public, not a single reporter has returned calls/emails. The MSM even ones we would consider friendly are ignoring this.

RAWR!!!!!!!!!!!! So FRUSTRATING!


20 posted on 07/21/2010 6:33:09 PM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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