Posted on 07/21/2010 6:38:18 AM PDT by Hojczyk
There is a certain frustration in hearing some of the officials who act as spokesmen for the management team handling the spill from the Deepwater well in the Gulf of Mexico. Their evaluation of the situation is bound around a full collection and compilation of the existing evidence, a comprehensive and contemplative understanding through a scientific explanation of the causes of whatever anomalies and other behavior that is not following the model anticipated, and subsequently then working out the best steps forward and determining the potential benefits relative to alternative approaches.
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That I do NOT see.
Haven’t heard about that ...thanks.
Not seeing NG and oil yet. The oil products have to push out the sedimentary channels first, then we should be seeing more of the oil products over time. Anytime you move sediments laterally underwater, you get turbidity. So I am assuming the same happens vertically. Gonna take a while to move through a few miles of sediments. All makes sense, so far. Pressure from rising oil products pushing out sedimentary turbidity as there clear out vertical channels.
Asking for BP ROV archives ?
MoonofA on July 21, 2010 - 9:15am Youtube of a real Oil Seep
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For all folks who see "oil seeping" in the silt storms the ROVs are causing, here is a video of a real oil-seep so you know what you should be looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4S9uazWAB0
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And the stuff goes UP!!!
Never saw that video, but it looks like nothing. What I saw were smokers. Feet tall and maybe up to 1 foot wide.
beachmommy on July 21, 2010 - 11:35am
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LOL about the 1000 ft Tsunami, I like the 5-6 ft waves myself....I have been trying to inform and debunk, although Matt Simmons was just on bloomberg and I only caught part of the massive oil lake 10 miles away, but did find this one yesterday:
There has been a fluctuation in the sea floor for several days of over seven feet... It rises and falls like a pulse, indicating that there is "something" underneath trying to escape... I wonder if it will be another 3-4 weeks before we hear THAT on the MSM
I also found the short info on BP and posted yesterday on the open thread, not sure what percentage were naked shorts though.
Look at the Enterprise ROV2 feed!!!
There’s 8 separate streams heading straight up the picture. And not just white whispy things. they are different colors, and the one on the right is black like oil. It’s scary how straight these streams are, although I have to admit the colors are cool.....
Oh wait, that’s a test pattern. Never mind.
Careful now....
This is how I think the game works Ernie. The government uses someone to leak a fantastical worse case scenario. These typically appear on Coast 2 Coast or some other such venue. The sole purpose of these worse case scenarios, is to condition the public so that the real truth wont be a shock. We just went through that. The Feds suddenly stated there is a seep near the well. Within 24 hours that seep story was negated by the report that it was determined to be a natural seep 2 miles from the well. WITHIN 24 HOURS ! How is that possible ? It was all a setup to condition the public not to panic when the real truth was released. IE - We have 2 seeps near the well. So Simmons is being used by the Feds to condition the public to not be shocked by the truth. IMHO.
The Oil Drum crowd gets the Crab video, but not the smoker video ?
Bruce Thompson on July 21, 2010 - 10:28am
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There was a question directed to me near the end of the last thread about the two differing drawings showing the fluid state in the well from the USCG investigation.
The first one is dated April 15,2010 http://www.deepwaterinvestigation.com/go/doc/3043/795971/
The second is dated April 18, 2010 http://www.deepwaterinvestigation.com/go/doc/3043/795991/
I am not an expert on cementing (Rockman?) but I do have a few observations.
They show different elapsed times and volumes of fluids pumped. Why that is so is an interesting question. Note also that the presumably revised drawing (4/18/10) shows less fluid pumped (11 barrels less) over a longer time frame (6 minutes longer).
If you want to follow along here are some hints to reading the drawings.
The table of fluids pumped shows the sequence with Macondo 9-7/8' x 7" Prod Casing - 14.17 ppg being the mud that was in the well for pressure control. It would go down through the production casing in the center of the well and then flow out the bottom and make a U-turn and flow upward through the annulus. Next was the 6.7 ppg Base Oil Maconndo etc.
The fourth and fifth are the cement, Macondo Foamed Slurry 16.74 ppg (Magenta) and Macoondo Foamed Slurry 16.74 (?) (Yellow). Where they flow out of the bottom of the production casing and make the U-turn is the "shoe". There is some green shown between the shoe and the hole on the later drawing.
The primary issue is how the cement job was done, so these anomalies in the data might prove critical to understanding the failure. Here is the Halliburon briefing http://energycommerce.house.gov/documents/20100614/Halliburton.EC.Staff....
Somewhere along the line I remember seeing a speculation that the cement might have failed to make a tight seal at the shoe because there was more volume to fill than cement pumped. I don't think there should be any green around the cement as in the second drawing, it should be all yellow as in the first one.
Rockman it's your turn.
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Scroll down aways thru the noise to find Rockman's comments.
They had numerous problems during the drilling process. It was called a nightmare well by one of the professionals involved. That says enough. Going through the particulars of how each one of about 5-6 well problems occurred, will probably takes years and many lawyers.
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