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Romney and Palin
American Conservative ^ | 7/20/10 | Dan Larison

Posted on 07/20/2010 3:31:47 PM PDT by pissant

While I was traveling last week, I missed the spat that erupted between the Romney and Palin camps. Steve Kornacki reviews Romney’s track record competing against different women over the years, and he reasonably concludes that Romney comes off looking like a heel whenever he competes against a woman for political office. That seems fair enough, but what seems to have been lost in the discussion is that Romney defeated all of his women opponents. It is quite a leap from saying “Romney treats women opponents badly and wins every time” to saying “Romney cannot possibly defeat Palin,” but somehow Andrew gets there.

Of course, Kornacki acknowledges that Romney is undefeated against women, but thinks that the way that Romney defeated all of his rivals in the past could cost him in a presidential campaign. It could be that Romney treats Palin roughly and ends up looking so bad that he becomes radioactive to a huge majority of women voters in the fall, but what Romney’s record tells me is that he has no scruples about doing whatever is necessary to win a nomination or an election. There also seems to be the suggestion that it is Romney who is at a disadvantage in any intra-Republican contest in which gender becomes a significant issue. That is an odd thing to assume. Palin’s “Mama Grizzly” routine works well enough when the perceived attackers are coming from outside the GOP, but my guess is that it will fall flat and will come across as mere whining when she uses it to fend off Republican rivals.

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1 posted on 07/20/2010 3:31:49 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

There’s never been a woman candidate like Palin before. No one even comes close. It doesn’t matter, He couldn’t even beat McCain. I believe that politically,this is going to be the year of the woman.


2 posted on 07/20/2010 3:38:17 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Do Be
His “Romneycare” in Mass should make him DOA for the Republican nomination; IF Republicans had any principles or smarts......... UH OH!!!
3 posted on 07/20/2010 3:40:49 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: pissant

Myth might actually do OK in the general as he’s bland and directionless enough to appeal to the mushy middle. Problem for him is he’s too much of a squish to make it out of the primaries, especiallly after Juan in ‘08.


4 posted on 07/20/2010 3:43:44 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: bereanway

I pray you are correct.


5 posted on 07/20/2010 3:48:03 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Romney is not qualified because of Romney's hallucinations.

"Mitt Romney Lies About Father ‘Marching With Martin Luther King, Jr.’"
"Mitt Romney has been caught in yet another lie.
Only yesterday Romney’s claim of not supporting Planned Parenthood abortion mills was abruptly smashed by a photograph surfacing of him at one of their fundraisers in 1994.
Today, it’s Romney’s claim that his father “marched with” famed civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr.
During his “I’m a Mormon but it doesn’t matter” speech, Mitt Romney claimed he saw his father,
George Romney, marching with MLK during a 1968 civil rights march through Grosse Pointe, Michigan.
It was a stirring account of the efforts of his father to show that the Romney family have always reached across ecumenical lines.
Only one little problem… it never happened."



"Mitt Romney went a step further in a 1978 interview with the Boston Herald.
Talking about the Mormon Church and racial discrimination, he said:
"My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit."
"Yesterday (12//07), Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom acknowledged that was not true.
"Mitt Romney did not march with Martin Luther King,"
he said in an e-mail statement to the Globe.


Against Myth Romney is 1:

"On Sunday, June 23, 1963, 125,000 people marched down Detroit's Woodward Avenue
to the Civic Center, in what was described at the time as the largest civil-rights demonstration in the nation's history.
According to the next day's account in the Holland Evening Sentinel,
the crowd at the Center "lustily booed," when representatives of Governor George W. Romney
read a proclamation declaring "Freedom March Day in Michigan." But Martin Luther King Jr. didn't fault Romney for his absence,
which the governor ascribed to his policy against public appearances on the Sabbath.
"At a news conference following the march . .
[King] refused to criticize Romney for not attending the demonstration," the Sentinel reported."

Against Myth Romney is 2:

Susan Englander, assistant editor of the Martin Luther King Jr. Papers Project at Stanford University, who is editing the King papers from that era,
says Myth Romney was untruthful, when she told the Globe yesterday:
"I researched this question, and indeed it is untrue that George Romney marched with [Dr.] King."

Against Myth Romney is 3:

"King never marched in Grosse Pointe, according to the Grosse Pointe Historical Society,
and had not appeared in the town at all at the time the Broder book was published.
“I’m quite certain of that
,” says Suzy Berschback, curator of the Grosse Pointe Historical Society"


Once again a few good women stand in the way
of the nutcase carpetbagger.

6 posted on 07/20/2010 3:54:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: Do Be

I hope not


7 posted on 07/20/2010 4:03:29 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Do Be

Why is this even being discussed? Romney had his shot and lost. I don’t understand how the Romney bots—RINOs to the core—think the man can live down Maine’s Romneycare. Why anyone of sound mind would vote for a man who’s healthcare is the mirror image of Onadacare and is failing—in all the ways that Onadacare has been predicted to fail?

It doesn’t matter whether he faces a male or female opponent for the Pubbie pres. candidate. To paraphrase Scrooge: He wears the chains he forged as governor of the second most Marxist state in the country. The chain is way too heavy to outrun. Heck, Palin could beat him in the 50 yd dash wearing 6” spikes with Romney in sneakers.


8 posted on 07/20/2010 4:18:56 PM PDT by dools007
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To: Do Be

Why is this even being discussed? Romney had his shot and lost. I don’t understand how the Romney bots—RINOs to the core—think the man can live down Maine’s Romneycare. Why anyone of sound mind would vote for a man who’s healthcare is the mirror image of Onadacare and is failing—in all the ways that Onadacare has been predicted to fail?

It doesn’t matter whether he faces a male or female opponent for the Pubbie pres. candidate. To paraphrase Scrooge: He wears the chains he forged as governor of the second most Marxist state in the country. The chain is way too heavy to outrun. Heck, Palin could beat him in the 50 yd dash wearing 6” spikes with Romney in sneakers.


9 posted on 07/20/2010 4:18:58 PM PDT by dools007
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To: pissant

I’ve never seen this stuff before. The man is delusional. Obviously he thinks his good looks and family pedigree count for everything. I suspect he employs a lot of sycophants around him to stroke his ego.


10 posted on 07/20/2010 4:22:30 PM PDT by dools007
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To: Do Be
Romney is unelectable. The last primaries proved that. If he makes it through this time, he will be without the conservatives and the Tea Party, and will lose like McCain did.

So what's it going to be, GOP? Put up another democrat lite, refuse to learn that we're not playing your "lesser of two evils" game anymore, or build us a viable conservative candidate?

11 posted on 07/20/2010 4:24:57 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Liberals hate the Constitution-- just look how they treat it.)
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To: Do Be
Romney is unelectable. The last primaries proved that. If he makes it through this time, he will be without the conservatives and the Tea Party, and will lose like McCain did.

So what's it going to be, GOP? Put up another democrat lite, refuse to learn that we're not playing your "lesser of two evils" game anymore, or build us a viable conservative candidate?

12 posted on 07/20/2010 4:25:02 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Liberals hate the Constitution-- just look how they treat it.)
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To: pissant

Romney is also incredibly awkward when speaking to blacks and about race. He really would insure Obama’s re-election. Palin is the one, I think, who can stop that. But yes, she’s got to be careful not to get caught playing the gender card at the wrong time as well.


13 posted on 07/20/2010 4:28:16 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dools007

Besides, Palin would look better in 6” spikes than Romney would ever look in sneakers.


14 posted on 07/20/2010 4:29:11 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: dools007
live down Maine’s Romneycare.

You get a second chance.

15 posted on 07/20/2010 5:01:58 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: pissant

Governor Sarah Palin has energized the center-right moderate and the conservative majority that has been silent for too long. The far left liberal/progressives only represent 20 percent of the U.S. population, but they have most of the legacy media, TV stations, magazines, Hollywood and newspapers pushing their agenda. Thanks to talk radio, FOX News and the Internet, the other 80 percent has a voice, and Governor Sarah Palin has them riled up and speaking out against the liberal agenda of larger government, out-of- control spending, the deterioration of family values and our worldwide respect. The entire world is laughing at our far left, liberal, government stupidity.

As for a comparison of Sarah Palin and Obama; Palin knows the meaning of logic and commonsense, Obama hasn’t a clue.

Vote to make sure the majority center/right moderates and conservatives take back control of Congress this November, and hopefully, before the far left has destroyed the American way.


16 posted on 07/20/2010 5:34:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Soapbox & Ballot Box or Ammo Box.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Forget common sense. It is uncommon. Let’s stick to constitutionalism.


17 posted on 07/20/2010 6:06:52 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
It is quite a leap from saying “Romney treats women opponents badly and wins every time” to saying “Romney cannot possibly defeat Palin,” but somehow Andrew gets there.

Romney doesn't always beat female opponents. He lost to McCain who isn't much of a man. As for Romney v. Palin, he's never faced a woman as strong and charismatic as her. Palin may have my vote (may because I would love to find someone even better). Romney will not get my vote - he's a pro-ObamaCare RINO who proved in 2008 that he's a lackluster campaigner. I'll write in Palin, or possibly even Reagan, if it's a choice between Romney and Obama (symbolic, since the socialists will carry my state, but I'll still do it because symbols matter).

18 posted on 07/20/2010 6:51:55 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: pissant

Yes. Constitution.

The makes Romney unqualified (because of what he did
to the Massachusetts Constitution) and ineligible
(because he grandparents renounced America).


19 posted on 07/21/2010 4:15:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: Do Be

Well, that could be an unintended side effect. Of course, you can be assured I’m above noticing things like that. Ahem, as it were.


20 posted on 07/22/2010 5:27:44 AM PDT by dools007
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