Posted on 07/17/2010 3:38:07 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
So how can care providers determine when negligence or abuse is a cause of childhood obesity? The authors suggest that similar standards to other types of disease-related neglect be applied. That is, "parental failure to provide their children with adequate treatment for a chronic illness (asthma, diabetes, epilepsy, etc) is a well accepted reason for a child protection registration for neglect" and as such, failure to adhere to obesity treatment missing appointments, refusing to support children with treatment programs or actively undermining those programs should convey neglect, especially among children who are at high risk for obesity-related conditions such as type 2 diabetes, they argue. Yet, the authors stress, having adequate evidence of this negligence is key. "Clear objective evidence of this behaviour over a sustained period is required, and the treatment offered must have been adequate and evidence based."
(Excerpt) Read more at wellness.blogs.time.com ...
This is truly frightening. It reminds me of the social engineering that took place in Nazi Germany in the attempt to produce a perfect race. Those who don't fit the mold were forced to comply or were eliminated.
Ha ha ha. Fat kids. Ha ha.
Childhood obesity is more of a product what happens when kids don’t go out and play. If they sit home on the computer, tv or are just not allowed to play do to neighborhood safety, they will likely be more chubby than those that play outside and run around like kids used to.
Let’s not deceive ourselves here, this has nothing to do with childhood obesity. It’s just another excuse to expand the power of the state.
It’s another means to break up the family.
I’ve been wondering why the Obama administration and the Democrats in Congress have been mostly mum about homeschooling. I think an easy back door to controlling one’s children is through the doctor’s visit. I took my third child in for his 5-year-old shots for sports, etc., and I felt myself feeling angry that soon the government will have access to our health information. It made me resent and distrust the doctor. I turned down a urinalysis because the nurse had just let my son go to the potty and laughed at him when he mentioned ‘peeing in a cup’. Five minutes later, when the lady doctor asked for a urinalysis, I said ‘tough luck!’. If I had known it was required, I would have had my son do it at the point he asked the nurse to use the restroom. I don’t tolerate them wasting my time very well. (They wanted me to return at a later date with the sample - NO). I had to argue with the doctor about the nurse’s incompetence, and it got nasty! (And I am a very meek person, but I’d had enough). My son is perfectly healthy, anyway.
I am NOT a paranoid person. I am not anti-shots, etc. But having lived through 18 years of public school, I’m well aware of how choices are nearly completely stripped away from parents, and how a child’s privacy is completely given over to the state. I remember physicals in middle school that I shouldn’t have been subjected to, etc. My parents didn’t even sign a permission slip.
Just a minor rant.
“Dr.” George McGovern blew it with the “food pyramid”. Now there is a possibility that there are other reasons for obesity that we don’t yet understand.
http://www.physorg.com/news198518697.html
Health at Every Size http://www.haescommunity.org/
Show me chunky parents and they will probably have chunky kids, no matter what they do or eat. Show me tall or short parents and the kids will be of similar height. This remains true even when kids are adopted. Kids still look like their biological parents.
Allergic??? All of a sudden, everyone is allergic.
Yeah this all sounds like the National Socialist
Some interesting thoughts:
The Moral Failure of German Medicine
The complicity of German physicians in the Nazis’ crimes against humanity is a well-established historical fact. Explaining that fact is far more difficult. Why were German doctors such avid fans of fascism? Why did nearly half of all German physicians join the Nazi party?
I don’t think it was the tirades of Julius Streicher in Der Stürmer that attracted their interest, but rather the promises of Nazi leaders to solve Germany’s problems medically, surgically. The Nazi state was supposed to be a hygienic state; Nazism was supposed to be “applied biology” (Fritz Lenz coined this phrase in 1931). Hitler was celebrated as the “great doctor” of German society and as the “Robert Koch of politics” (Koch was a nineteenth century pioneer in studying the bacterial origin of diseases). The seductive power of National Socialism for many physicians lay in its promise to cleanse German society of its corrupting elements — not just communism and Jews, but also metallic lead and addictive tobacco, along with homosexuality and the “burdensome” mentally ill.
The relation of science and politics in Nazi Germany was therefore more complex than most people like to think. Part of the misunderstanding, I would suggest, lies in the widely accepted belief that when science is politicized, “real” science inevitably suffers: the freedom of scientists is abrogated, distorting biases are introduced into research, minds are closed, avenues of inquiry are blocked. In many areas of science, of course, that is indeed what happened in Nazi Germany; one thinks of the fate of Einstein’s relativity theory, for example. But in other areas — e.g., many areas of public health — that was not the case at all.
http://www.adl.org/braun/dim_14_1_nazi_med.asp
I know what you mean! I found out from my daughter-in-law that doctors are required to ask all kinds of intrusive questions at well child visits. I’m glad you stood up for yourself.
We started homeschooling in the 80s when it was still somewhat of a novelty, and we had a neighbor turn us in because our kids were not in school. I can’t tell you how scared I was when the truant officer showed up at our door. It turned out OK, but knowing that these people would be more than happy to take my kids away from me made me distrust government completely. The phrase “the banality of evil” comes to mind.
This will be interesting, because you know that the BMI thingy will be deemed racist. (Seriously.)
Yes.
No, it is not. It is wrong to make eating a mental battle between you and your child. Tell him that it’s better to exercise more, and eat less, but if he (or she) eats a lot of healthy carbs, and chooses NOT to exercise, even if you go with him, then let him be. I am talking about an overweight kid and not a grossly obese one.
If your child is grossly obese, it is time for some mental assistance. It’s not the eating ALONE. Maybe he is scared or left alone too much, or is trying to satisfy much more important needs with food. He needs some positive behavior therapy and some “Jillian Michaels” probing, though very kindly, into why he might have gotten this heavy. Of course a med eval is required first too, as some conditions cause weight gain (as do some medications).
Kids come in all sizes, thin and chubby, tall and short. It’s OK!!!!
Guess the Dums will need to BREED it out of society. /S
Let me guess: The state will take over care of such children and make them into Obama Youth? Am I close?
You are right. I had not thought about that. Since minorities have higher rates of obesity than whites, I wonder how they will avoid the charge of racism? Unfortunately, minorities have been so conditioned to do what government tells them, that they may not even resist.
Here in New York City many inner city kids are obese. They don’t go out and play because their neighborhoods are gang infested. Random bullets shooting people isn’t uncommon. The schools should have more phys ed classes. Why are those programs the first ones cut? Lazy parenting is also a problem. Throw some money at a kid and off the McDonalds they go. Of course you can healthier fare at McDonalds but they don’t know who to make the right choices.
Absolutely. Totalitarian regimes always attempt to wrest children away from their parents. That way they can be thoroughly indoctrinated by those in power.
“Unfortunately, minorities have been so conditioned to do what government tells them, that they may not even resist.”
It doesn’t matter what color your skin is. Any mother worth her salt will fight with all she has when someone tries to take her children away.
Perhaps, but especially poor parents often feel powerless against authority. Some don’t know how to fight after being dependent on government all their lives.
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