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1 posted on 07/13/2010 7:42:38 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To vilify people for who they are, not what they have done."

The Onion?

2 posted on 07/13/2010 7:45:50 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.)
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Unitl the Catholic Church is held accountable by it’s parishoners for it’s error on this issue, don’t expect it to be fully solved.

Any church, proclaiming itself to be of God that does not honor the laws of the land it resides in and supports those flagrantly break those laws, is walking outside the commands of Christ and the apostles.

Furthermore, since Illegals are nothing better than thieves because they take what is not theirs legally, that is tax-payer funded benefits, the error by the Catholic church and OTHER Churches, cannot be excused,.


3 posted on 07/13/2010 7:49:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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Well. That certainly pi$$ed me off. Just because the UK has given up on the rule of law and surrendered to parasites doesn’t mean we have to.


4 posted on 07/13/2010 7:53:01 PM PDT by La Lydia
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Another soft-headed pinko priest. They’re a dime a dozen.


5 posted on 07/13/2010 7:54:34 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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The catholic church could care less about the United States..
The RCC cares about the RCC..

More catholics means more political power..
More latins more political power..

6 posted on 07/13/2010 7:56:06 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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Fortunately, the Catholic Church is not a democracy. The Catechism takes care of practical issues, and takes care of this one rather nicely and straight forwardly. The Church is not in error, priests are. They are human. To disregard the borders of nations is not excused by the Catholic Church. Period. Lawlessness is not okay. Yes, illegals here by 20 years or more may pose a difficult case, with many fully productive and patriotic individuals who are now with practically grown children born here, and others with grandchildren. However, for this nation to be under seige is unapologetically wrong and is abusive toward an otherwise charitable people. Catholics know this.


11 posted on 07/13/2010 8:05:18 PM PDT by RitaOK
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Their "illegal" status is the primary accusation against Mexican immigrants. But Father Charlie argues that this is a bureaucratic documentation problem, not a criminal act. "We are talking about paperwork, not a crime. By calling an undocumented worker a criminal, you put them in the same category as a rapist or burglar. This is our lowest moment. To vilify people for who they are, not what they have done."

This idiot sounds like Bill O'Reilly. No you imbecile, it is against our laws and is a CRIME, punishable by 6 months in prison for the first time your caught and it's a FELONY for the second time with 2 years imprisonment being the sentence.

You enter my house without permission, it's a crime. You enter my car without permission, it's a crime. You enter my Country without permission, it's a crime. What's so hard for these dimwits to understand?

I would have no problem prosecuting these Priests and Bishops for aiding and abetting criminals.

12 posted on 07/13/2010 8:06:11 PM PDT by Prokopton
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There is a fair sized segment of Catholics who lean hard left of social issues. They are led by their Priest, who is most likely Jesuit.

Aren't most of the South American Priests behind the social justice movement Jesuits? Just asking.

24 posted on 07/13/2010 8:31:58 PM PDT by muleskinner
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Hey Father Charlie!
The illegals haven't FILED any paperwork for any bureaucrat to hold up!!!

The illegal immigrant’s presence causes the legal immigrants to have to work for slave wages. We need to SECURE THE BORDER before discussing what it means for the illegals to get to the back of the line.

30 posted on 07/13/2010 8:59:51 PM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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"But Father Charlie argues that this is a bureaucratic documentation problem, not a criminal act."

Catch him aiding and abetting, then seize all of his written communication...email, text msgs and letters.

Then, try him and ALL of his co-conspirators...even if it's Bishops and Cardinals...and send them all to prison.

If it's found the Catholic Church is SYSTEMATICALLY undermining immigration law and abetting those who break it, charge them under the RICO act and seize all church property in the US.

That is the right and just answer.

32 posted on 07/13/2010 9:03:36 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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Well Father they are law breakers. Not quite to the level of a Priest child molester swept under the rug by other Priests so law enforcement wouldn't find out, but still a law breaker.
We are talking about paperwork, not a crime. By calling an undocumented worker a criminal, you put them in the same category as a rapist or burglar.
Then think of it as breaking and entering but not taking anything...Drunk driving but no one was hurt, driving without a license and insurance. Are those some of the things a Priest could accept as OK to also overlook?
37 posted on 07/13/2010 10:57:17 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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“Their “illegal” status is the primary accusation against Mexican immigrants. But Father Charlie argues that this is a bureaucratic documentation problem, not a criminal act. “We are talking about paperwork, not a crime.”

Wonder what he thinks about counterfiters?

The illegal alien issue and the failure to deal with homosexual predators in collars is the Catholic Church’s counterpoint to the mainstream Protestant Church’s similar views on illegal invaders, homosexuals and gay clerics.

Christianity is in trouble at the very moment we are facing attacks by Islam. Those clerics who voice such virulently anti-American views should be removed from office. If they are not, their parishones should cease supporting their churches.


46 posted on 07/14/2010 7:18:54 AM PDT by ZULU
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"We are talking about paperwork, not a crime. By calling an undocumented worker a criminal, you put them in the same category as a rapist or burglar. This is our lowest moment. To vilify people for who they are, not what they have done."

Sorry Father Charlie, I know you'd love to fill your churches and schools with the many illegals here in America so that the gov. would give you more of our taxes to "care for the poor,"

"These people ARE criminals by the very fact that they ignored our border and broke into our country.

If they broke into your home, are they merely the newly "undocumented owners" or burglars?

Calling them "illegal aliens" is exactly what our government laws call them so quit with the euphemisms of being "undocumented migrants or immigrants."

To further dispute your claim to truly care for these people, why do you not demand that their own governments provide the jobs, housing, education and health care that you are demanding American citizens provide?

I may be a bit mistaken here, but I do believe that your church has been in their country for centuries; why haven't you and your faith been demanding a better life for these poor people, or is it merely, "Que sara, sara."

47 posted on 07/14/2010 7:33:19 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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Please consider this statement from the Magisterium:

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants’ duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.


48 posted on 07/14/2010 8:44:19 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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Harry Reid claims there are no illegals working in construction in Nevada

http://www.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=12793540


52 posted on 07/14/2010 1:47:31 PM PDT by Fred (Suspend All Immigration Until Unemployment is Reduced to 5%)
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