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82 police injured in Northern Ireland's 2 nights of Catholic riots; politicians plead for calm
FOX News ^ | July 13, 2010 | NA

Posted on 07/13/2010 10:24:53 AM PDT by Stayfrosty

BELFAST, Northern Ireland (AP) — Northern Ireland leaders condemned Irish nationalist rioters Tuesday who wounded 82 police officers during two nights of street clashes sparked by the province's annual parades by the British Protestant majority.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: belfast; catholic; clinton; failure; goodfriday; ira; london; mi5; mi6; northernireland; northireland; obama; outsidesix; protestant; terrorism; uk; ulster; unitedkingdom; wot
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To: Stolly

Please stop twisting what I say to suit your narrative. Every bomb that ever went off had a 30 minute warning of where. It is obivous you posted here to show your backside and your anti Catholic rhetoric I hope you have to answer for that one day.


41 posted on 07/13/2010 12:16:34 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Stolly

“At 11:58am on 20 March 1993, the telephone help charity The Samaritans received a coded message that a bomb was going to be detonated outside the Boots shop in Liverpool, fifteen miles away from Warrington. Merseyside Police investigated, and also warned the Cheshire Constabulary (who patrolled Warrington) of the threat, but it was too late to evacuate. At 12:12pm two bombs exploded, one outside Boots on Bridge Street and one outside the Argos catalogue store. Eyewitnesses said that “the first explosion drove panicking shoppers into the path of the next blast just seconds later.” Buses were organised to ferry people away from the scene and 20 paramedics and crews from 17 ambulances were sent to deal with the aftermath. It was later determined that the bombs had been placed inside cast-iron litter bins, causing large amounts of shrapnel.

Three-year-old Johnathan Ball died at the scene, while his babysitter survived. The second victim, 12-year-old Tim Parry, survived the impact with multiple injuries, but died on 25 March 1993 when doctors switched his life support machine off, having asked permission to do so from his family after a series of tests had found minimal brain activity.[5] 54 other people were injured, four of them seriously”

They might have been Protestant though so thats OK. At any rate they were English and who knows 400 hundred years ago one of their ancestors may have been to Ireland.


42 posted on 07/13/2010 12:17:42 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: chris_bdba

Well, apart from the time the IRA gave 15 minutes warning, and got the location wrong by 15 miles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks

Honest mistake though. Human nature and all that.


43 posted on 07/13/2010 12:20:57 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: chris_bdba

Are you actually justifying terrorism? Did I hear you
right? Terrorism is just that. There are laws against
that for a reason. Using bombs against non-military
targets sounds very familiar. Just saying.
Why don’t the Irish get an army and go take the land
back? I’m sure there are lots of RC boys willing
to die for that little piece of land that the
Orangemen took centuries ago.
Syracuse University dropped the Orangemen as
their mascot, I wonder why?
Still a little tender about the Battle of Boyne, eh?
Get over it, it was a long time ago.


44 posted on 07/13/2010 12:30:02 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: N3WBI3
This is not a religious struggle, this one is geo political.

Thank you! For years people having been trying to paint this as religous conflict. While the sides do tend to split along religous lines neither side is fighting to convert the other or for other religous reasons. This was a fight about nationality and identity.


45 posted on 07/13/2010 12:39:40 PM PDT by elc
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To: elc

This was a fight where the 99.9% of the population tried to stay out of the way when the .1 percent who live in the past tried to kill as many innocent people as possible.

And yes, that .1 percent is people on both sides who claimed to represent their communities but in reality brought nothing but suffering. I wish there was a way to have the terrorists of both sides blasted into space so they could fight over some rock a million miles away.


46 posted on 07/13/2010 12:44:17 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: Doulos1

You wrote:

“Are you feather indian or mexican landscaper ?”

Neither. And I don’t shed a single tear over land being taken from uncivilized, devil worshiping, human sacrificing cannibals like the Indians or Aztecs. Except for the unintended horror of disease, the people living here in 1492 were better off after the coming of Christian Europeans.


47 posted on 07/13/2010 12:51:38 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Stayfrosty
You are probably right. IMHO though there will never be peace until the British leave with their Army...Shouldn’t the UK be dedicating those forces to Afghanistan instead?

I think you may be a little behind the times. The British Army ended its operation (Operation Banner) in 2007. There are troops stationed in Ulster (most of them locals), but they do not do active operations. They're mostly there for training before deployment. The RIR battalions and their garrisons are long gone.

Secondly, I'm very curious, which British do you want to leave Northern Ireland? Are you referring to the Protestants that live there who consider themselves British?
48 posted on 07/13/2010 12:57:52 PM PDT by elc
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To: N3WBI3

You wrote:

“Well, whtats what I get for asking nicely..”

Your request was simply improper.

“Your points were selective and the conclusions obtuse and childlike.... For every ‘Prtos are bad to Catholics I can find Catholics being bad to Prots...”

Not in Ireland you can’t.

“To bring it up here displays a very limited view of the whole thing.”

No, actually I just go to the heart of the matter.

“Really? Are you that uninformed or do you just want to drag out the argument?”

Neither. I said “rarely” - and I was right. Wikipedia is not the “left”. It is merely one website and just about anyone can post there just like FR.

“The left does what they always do, take a single situation and warp it around to be an example of whatever great ‘evil’ is currently spinning around their empty head... Kind of like what you’re doing.”

I am not warping anything. You are. Suddenly the left is wikipedia.

“Hmm so when Then catholic Englan invaded the Catholic france were they trying to convert them to.... Catholics”

No. Then again there was no Protestant English invasion of France, no Protestant occupation, no Protestant marches, etc.

“England wanted land, and in Ireland they had a weak neighbor with no bordering nations. Please don’t state your opinion as if it were a fact..”

What I stated was fact.

“When England first assaulted Ireland (1100) both nations were Catholic and England did it with the full authority of a Papal Bull. From then on England always had an eye on Ireland no matter what church the nation fought under.”

That is largely irrelevant to the present situation. The Dublin pale is not Belfast.

“It started 900 years ago when both peoples were Catholic...”

No, actually it didn’t. The current troubles really only started with the invasion of the North. What happened in teh South 400 years earlier was essentially imaterial. This can be seen in the fact that the Normans became Irish lords in the Dublin pale and even often learned Irish and shared the same faith as their neighbors. None of that can be said of the Scots who came to the North in the 16th and 17th centuries.


49 posted on 07/13/2010 1:03:33 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: chris_bdba
Children and women were never targeted so stop your BS!

Are you smoking crack? Do you really think the IRA bombs were only going to kill British soldiers and RUC? You know the bombs they set off in pubs, crowded shopping centers, Remembrance Day parades.

I love it when the Plastic Paddies come out and start defending the IRA terrorists.
50 posted on 07/13/2010 1:04:19 PM PDT by elc
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To: elc

You can stop with your Catholic insults and stupid remarks. Many of us have supported a free Northen Ireland and I can remember being a child when they raised money in the churches to support our Northen Irish relatives. And according to a report from MI5:
http://www.bilderberg.org/sis.htm#Fury it was a “just cause” just as any army would defend their land.


51 posted on 07/13/2010 1:21:42 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: elc; chris_bdba

You wrote:

“Do you really think the IRA bombs were only going to kill British soldiers and RUC?”

How exactly is that the same things as deliberately targeting women and children? IRA bombings killed civilians. There’s no doubt about it. But Osama bin Laden specifically said women and children were fair game. That isn’t what the IRA ever said as far as I know.

“You know the bombs they set off in pubs, crowded shopping centers, Remembrance Day parades.”

Yet no schools crowded with children were attacked. No airplanes flown into skyscrapers. No teenage hangouts like Sbarro’s Pizza blown up. The IRA bombers were doubtless thugs, but they were boy scouts compared to any Islamist terrorist group.

“I love it when the Plastic Paddies come out and start defending the IRA terrorists.”

I am not defending anyone. I am just pointing out hat Muslim terrorists kill many, many more civilians - especially women and children - than the IRA ever could or would.


52 posted on 07/13/2010 1:22:52 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

Don’t waste your brethe on the uninformed. They have their ideology and no amount of fact is going to change their views. I do wonder how they would act of their neighborhood was taken over by an invader and wonder if they wouldn’t resort to the same things the IRA did?


53 posted on 07/13/2010 1:24:20 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

I think they would. Americans killed plenty of Indian women and children. I have no doubt many Americans would resort to that if they were fighting an occupier.


54 posted on 07/13/2010 1:27:07 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: goodwithagun
The Irish Catholics, never that I have seen, covered their faces.

Don't get around much, do you?

55 posted on 07/13/2010 1:33:45 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: chris_bdba

Awesome !

You know that money raised in your Churches was spent by the IRA on Libyan arms. The Libyans are suspected to have used the profits to fund the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 which killed 190 Americans.

Good Job !


56 posted on 07/13/2010 1:58:44 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: chris_bdba

Well gee, i’d probably fight at the time but 400 years later if my ancestors were still murdering civilians who had nothing to do with those events i’d say it was time to try something different.


57 posted on 07/13/2010 2:00:56 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: goodwithagun

You must be joking! While we’re at it, how Irish is the name Adams? As in Gerry? There are many protestants of Scottish ancestry in Ireland who have been there for more than 4 centuries.


58 posted on 07/13/2010 2:05:39 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Stayfrosty

British troops were first sent to NI to PROTECT the Catholics from the paramilitary protestants.


59 posted on 07/13/2010 2:08:57 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Stolly

Oh? Just who are these ‘true’ Americans? Did they not emigrate as well from another place? Hmmmmm?


60 posted on 07/13/2010 2:11:36 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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