Posted on 07/13/2010 9:11:47 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Jaguar Awaits Re-engine RFP As Bidders Spar
Jul 12, 2010
By Neelam Mathews
mathews.neelam@gmail.com
NEW DELHI
Rivals Honeywell and Rolls-Royce are trading public barbs as they await the delayed request for proposals to re-engine Indias fleet of 120 twin-engine Jaguar fighters, which have slowly become overweight and underpowered as a result of avionics and weapon systems upgrades.
Honeywell says its F125IN engine enables 23% shorter high-hot takeoffs, 17%-40% higher thrust and 36% greater fuel range than the Rolls-Royce engine currently powering the Jaguar. A fatigue analysis done by the Indian air force estimates the fleet could last another 25 years. Honeywell projects savings of $1.5 billion in lifecycle costs over the life of the program with its engine, according to Pritam Bhavnani, recently appointed president for Honeywell Aerospace India.
Comparing the F125 to the current Rolls-Royce Adour, Bhavnani says that Rolls-Royce has yet to develop some aspects of the Adour Mk821... Our engine is a known one and been in production for awhile.
The Rolls-Royce Adour Mk821 will provide the proven lowest-risk solution for certification, production, transition and operational phases, a Rolls-Royce spokesman says. It also provides economies of scale with the Hawk AJT [Advanced Jet Trainer] engine, already manufactured in India.
Honeywell says certification will be required for the engine and once the Indian air force puts its program into place, the engine might need modifications to resolve any issue uncovered by flight testing. If there are no changes, Bhavnani anticipates 3-4 years from the order to the start of deliveries.
Rolls-Royce says the Adour Mk821 engine requires no airframe development, therefore Rolls-Royce offers the fastest and most cost-effective solution... It is the only low-risk option.
Both engines were tested in India at the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) facility in Bengaluru.
Honeywell and HAL have been collaborating to produce the TPE331 engine that powers the HAL-built Dornier 228 aircraft, for which an agreement was signed in 2008 to have the engine produced by HAL, making it the first aerospace engine to be fully manufactured in India for the world market.
The project is being undertaken in a phased approach. Honeywell already has transferred 200 components to HAL. Phase two is being looked at now and the final manufacturing phase will take another year, Bhavnani says.
As an engineering student at one time, I recall the buzz around avionics and turbine jet engine efficiencies. Apparently an increase of just 1% in turbine efficiency results in very large paychecks to the design teams.
Interesting placement on those AAMs...not many planes carry any sort of ordnance *over* the wing.
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Good attack airplane with lots of life left if they get those new engines in there.
Avionics are pretty heavy and only getting heavier. Even with modernization, most of your weight is in the ruggedized housings. Also for every thing you do to make things more dense and compact you have to beef up the cooling systems. Engine performance is king. If you read about old development programs for aircraft going as far back as you can you will see airframe after airframe that died or never lived up to its promises because the engine it was built around failed to live up to the hype. And these days engines are so finely tuned to such high tolerances that squeezing 1% more out is quite a feat.
That pretty much solidifies my understanding of it. Knowing how tolerances are getting tighter with powered flight, I’d imagine 1% efficiency increases are the thing of sheer folly.
Thanks for the follow up, Talon.
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