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Officers In Costco Shooting Identified (NV)
fox5vegas.com ^ | 12 July, 2010 | NA

Posted on 07/13/2010 3:47:06 AM PDT by marktwain

Edited on 07/13/2010 4:51:40 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: dennisw

We have them on my commute policing the HOV lane during restricted hours. It is almost a daily occurrence to see 2-3 cars and another 4-5 motorcycles gathered on the side of the road and hand flagging all the HOV violators who stray into the wrong lane. The funny thing is that they literally bring traffic in the HOV lane to a crawl because they end up visually inspecting every single vehicle and waving it through, so the HOV lane usually moves slower than regular traffic. They entirely defeat the purpose of having HOV.


221 posted on 07/13/2010 9:28:27 AM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: conimbricenses

All I needed was reasonable suspicion. If I was told by an officer at a traffic stop to exit the vehicle slowly, with my EMPTY hands clearly VISIBLE, why on earth would I do anything else?


222 posted on 07/13/2010 9:30:30 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
A bad tax attorney can land you in jail.....

A bad Congressman could ruin you personally and financially...

A bad POTUS can ruin generations to come...

A bad doctor can kill you...

A bad electrician, auto mechanic, and nurse can kill you too...

A bad dentist could also kill you...

I understand standards....as I live under them every day.

I think my point remains........And I do understand yours.

FRegards,

223 posted on 07/13/2010 9:30:37 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Hmmm...conflicting eyewitness stories. Interesting.


224 posted on 07/13/2010 9:30:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (No matter who you think you are, God retains His pardon and veto powers.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

And where do you think he got that description? The cop wasn’t there in the store and didn’t see anything happen. His only information to make the “berserk” claim was what he had been told by the Costco clerk on the 911 call.


225 posted on 07/13/2010 9:31:03 AM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: freedomwarrior998

“Oscar Goodman’s son is their attorney.”

Interesting running commentary on Las Vegas politics in the notes beneath the article.


226 posted on 07/13/2010 9:31:27 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: takenoprisoner
But, 99% of LE in my community is focussed on traffic violations. I don’t know how they afford so many cruisers and patrol officers, much less justify it.

You just answered your own question. Like a gang of thieves, they fund themselves by sitting on the side of the road and stealing from travelers.

227 posted on 07/13/2010 9:33:36 AM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: EternalVigilance
Hmmm...conflicting eyewitness stories. Interesting.

Obviously the "witnesses" who said the police were in the wrong are the only real witnesses, anyone who says anything different must be lying to protect the JACKBOOTED THUGZ KOPZ!!!! OH NOEZ!!!!!! [/sarcasm]

228 posted on 07/13/2010 9:34:03 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: marktwain

I still want to see the Costco video tapes of him supposedly trashing the store.


229 posted on 07/13/2010 9:34:18 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Texan Tory

“Fortunately, other officers shot the suspect to death before he was able to kill anyone else.”

Careful. There are folks around here that would take issue with your use of the word “Fortunately.”


230 posted on 07/13/2010 9:34:30 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I anxiously await further facts, including the availability of the store video tape.

Speaking of which, WHERE are the videos? Why is it taking so long to release them?

Might there be some, "Creative Editing," going on?
231 posted on 07/13/2010 9:34:45 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: freedomwarrior998

It just isn’t credible that this particular individual posed any threat to anyone that justified gunning him down.


232 posted on 07/13/2010 9:35:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (No matter who you think you are, God retains His pardon and veto powers.)
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To: EternalVigilance

BTW: That sarcasm wasn’t directed specifically at you, it’s meant for the folks with that libertine mentality.


233 posted on 07/13/2010 9:35:45 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: conimbricenses

“stealing from travelers.”

Who are unwilling to obey traffic laws.


234 posted on 07/13/2010 9:35:45 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: EternalVigilance
It just isn’t credible that this particular individual posed any threat to anyone that justified gunning him down.

And you are in a position to make that judgment... how? Because it fits with what you want to believe? Why should we discount some eyewitness accounts and believe others?

That's what liberals do.

235 posted on 07/13/2010 9:37:10 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: RandallFlagg

Let’s hope not.

The key moments would be pretty compact as far as a time frame. Mere seconds from the time he exited the store with the rest of the crowd and the time he was repeatedly shot.

The other tape from inside the store that show his behavior are a side issue. Important, but not determinative of whether this was a righteous shooting by the police or not.


236 posted on 07/13/2010 9:39:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (No matter who you think you are, God retains His pardon and veto powers.)
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To: Grunthor
Who are unwilling to obey traffic laws.

...most of which are written without regard to any real safety criteria, but rather to trap motorists for explicit revenue purposes.

And then there are motorists who are simply falsely accused by a dishonest cop who knows that the cost of fighting the ticket is higher than the cost of paying it and moving on.

237 posted on 07/13/2010 9:39:44 AM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: freedomwarrior998

“It seems like some people in this thread conveniently missed some witness accounts. I wonder why that is...”

Because they are cop hating, dope smoking Losertarians?


238 posted on 07/13/2010 9:39:52 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Question: Would the command “drop the weapon!” when it is NOT in his hand require him “going for his weapon”?

Think in terms of cause and effect.
One police command to “Freeze!/Don’t move!” and another police-command to “Drop the weapon!” really is asking for trouble like this.


239 posted on 07/13/2010 9:42:12 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

I haven’t discounted any of them. The only ones who are saying that he pointed a gun at anyone are the police. I haven’t seen any civilian account that says that. Have you?


240 posted on 07/13/2010 9:42:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (No matter who you think you are, God retains His pardon and veto powers.)
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