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Where oh where to begin with this rant.

How about, learn to use a paragraph space. One long disjointed run on is annoying and very hard to follow.

I see more conspiracy-theorist libertarianism seeping into the Freerepublic base every day.

Well, at least you do see the root element. Liberty. Because, it is the root of Liberty which is the last bastion for the establishment and their patsies to assail.

My usual advice for someone who doesn’t like the police or generally distrusts them is they should then go to your local city or county department.....or go a couple cities over, and request a ride-a-long.

So, what is you usual advice for highly educated, liberty minded, strict constructionist constitutional jurists? Because, I am very very familiar with our laws, statutes, codifications, and administrative regulations.

What is missing from your understanding is the difference between those four citations above.

There is LAW. Which is, self evident, natural, God given, inalienable, and absolute.

There is everything else, which are either in harmony with natural law or in rebellion against natural law. Most of the others, in 20th and 21st century America are in rebellion against natural law.

One of the chiefest rebellions is the creation and expansion of the Police State. A precursor to every known tyranny.

Since we do not have time for the course or the proofs and since these concepts are well researchable elsewhere, I will just refresh your acquaintance with the general theorems.

City cops are an administrative enforcement division of civil law. An unlawful and unnecessary government burden upon the tax payers and populous. They are without any direct elected oversight or accountability and in constitutional effect operating as private citizens who exercise the citizens own God given rights of police powers. With the added pejorative that city cops do so while protected by a unaccountable unionized bureaucratic syndicate.

A free people, should utterly reject this form of usurpation of their rights, as surely as they defend their own rights to the same as documented in the 2nd amendment.

Is it any wonder that so called Law Enforcement types are among the worst perpetrators against the rights of the people to go armed? Is it any wonder that these types hold themselves above the laws and to the extend consider the general and sovereign populace to be "citizens" as if that is a lowly denominator to which cops are above?

I am not discussing at ALL... Not in the least, the personal ethics of individuals. Not "bad apples". Those are your words, not mine. It is not baseless charges against a person for deeds done or undone. So listen clearly to what it is, and do not imagine the lies with which you have been indoctrinated.

Any city cop. All city cops. Are, de facto, unlawful agents of a corrupt tyrannical abusive police state. By their very existence. If the greatest hearted, most gentle loving, kind, honorable, never hurt a fly human, takes upon himself the power and authority, or accepts the charges of such an authority, which is abusive by its very nature to the laws of God, that man is now corrupt by the deed itself.

There is no moral authority for municipal administrative police powers granted under heaven. None. Therefore, all who usurp these lawful powers, reserved to the sovereign people, are criminals and posing as the self appointed law, criminals of the worst kind. Usurpers. Traitors. Posers. Liars. Thugs. Brutes. The lowest of the low, their good intentions be damned.

Now, that this is settled, at least to the degree that you can no longer mince words, or toss about inane generalities and are informed of the specifics, even if you outright reject the foundations of a Republic, we can move on to your other red herrings.

Should 75% of the military be thrown out or executed? Maybe all catholic priests need to be executed? No? Yett that sentiment applies to police.

Hopefully you can see now, and if not you, others, that this is not at all about the behaviors of persons.

Let's go for the God hatred. Since one of the roots of those who support a police state is the hatred for God and His Law. You did not choose to attack the church in vain. Even if you deny God hatred your choice of targets betrays the inner motive and heart.

Are their members of the organized religious hierarchy known as the Catholic Church who have committed abuse and violated the laws of God? Of course. Should they be arrested, tried, and if convicted sentenced under law? Without objection. So ordered. Do you see this is a red herring? Priests are individuals and their behavior in these cases is criminal and the system of justice is in place for this reason.

It has nothing to do with city cops. It has nothing to do with usurpation of authority. Priests, by natural law are in fact lawful agents of their own estate.

City cops on the other had are unnatural agents of a corrupt application of a Fascist bureaucracy exercising police powers against the very citizens from which and to which those powers belong directly.

Guilty abusive Priests need punished, to protect victims.

Administrative police bureaucracies need abolished and those powers returned to and resumed by the people, to protect the very foundations of liberty itself.

NEXT UP: MILITARY

The very purpose of the state is to protect the citizens from foreign assault. The Military is constitutional. But, should 75% of it be retired, inactive and should we stop being the world's policemen? Oh boy. Now I have really opened the can of worms. This rabbit hole is deep. But, alas we have not the time or space for it. So I will be brief.

First, the givens. A well regulated militia. Yes, the national defense is a Lawful exercise of delegated powers. And from time to time, military engagement to protect the nation will occur. But, this is a far cry from what has become of our military industrial complex. So, in brief, we should cut the expenditures and bring our troops home, close these overseas empire building bases and use our resources for our basic infrastructure.

75%. Sure. It was a basic round number. As good as a point as any for the debate to begin.

But we have left out the very telling tale. The very words: "The World's Policeman".

Words have meanings. And the meanings in that statement are profound. What is exactly a Policeman and how should we tell if one is behaving as such?

Well, I think the above posting has presented a very clear view. So, if the Military is acting in a lawful way, it is a military. If they act in a way such as a bureaucratic administrative enforcement agent, it would be likewise an unlawful execution of otherwise lawful powers.

Did I sum that up too succinctly or did you follow it ok?

Let me be direct:

It is lawful for our nation, under the provision of a declaration of war, to engage enemies, rote them from the field of battle and then to return to our homes.

It is unlawful to occupy for an indefinite period of time and to administer statutory enforcements upon people with their just consent.

It is unlawful to do so in some other nation upon some other nations peoples, just as it is unlawful for such administration upon our own people in our own country.

This is the very crux of the matter. City cops, are a de facto occupying militarized force of unaccountable, power usurping bureaucrats hostile to the liberties of man.

And you, reading this, either get it, and understand where and what and why and how you are to secure your liberties or you will continue to see them eroded, usurped, stolen, abused and you will be systematically be reduced to servitude.

If there are any good men of moral conscience who truly seek to support the very pillars of liberty, they cannot in any good conscience continue to support a doctrine which is the primary vehicle for the direct destruction of our natural rights and the foundations upon which hang the very hopes for the freedoms of the entire world.

If after reading this, you reject this understanding, and embrace the lies of the state, you are an enemy of God and of the people and an agent of absolute evil.

I find your ideals admirable if even a tab bit lofty and disjointed. I can accept that there are certain peoples that believe that all police are nothing more than ‘unlawful’ criminals with badges. But I’m curious, say your idea would be implemented, and all police would be fired and disarmed. Wouldn’t there still be the rest of the criminals? With the ‘unlawful’ criminal police gone who would deal with the murder, rape, robbery, & battery? Are you under the assumption that those types of ‘crimes’ would just work themselves out? Are you advocating people take ‘natural law’ into their own hands?

Have you ever truly experienced a “police state”? I don’t think we’re anywhere near it. Sure we’re going that direction but it’s not by the choice of state, county, or city police officers. I’m a firm believer that the federal government is out of control. The Feds is where the “police state” will come from, not your local 10 car cop shop. By lumping all law enforcement together you do yourself a disservice.

Like I said I can admire your ideals but when they’re just that, with no solutions provided then in the end I can’t really take you seriously. It’s kind of like when a pResident puts a moratorium on deep water drilling without thinking about the long term consequences on the whole southern shoreline of the US.

And please, for crying out loud, don’t lecture me about who I am or am not an enemy of, or who I might be an agent of........that totally disqualifies anything you say and puts you in a whole different realm of the fantastical. Why? Because there are several hundred thousand men and women who are “enemies of God and of the people and agents of absolute evil” who would put themselves between you and someone who would kill you i.e. give their life for you without even knowing you. If that’s being evil then your absolutely surrounded by it and have no escape from it. Maybe you should just leave the USA to it’s demise and get away from all the evil before you’re swallowed up by it. I hear Iran is nice this time of year, maybe it would do you some good to experience a true ‘police state’.