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To: RachelFaith

I find your ideals admirable if even a tab bit lofty and disjointed. I can accept that there are certain peoples that believe that all police are nothing more than ‘unlawful’ criminals with badges. But I’m curious, say your idea would be implemented, and all police would be fired and disarmed. Wouldn’t there still be the rest of the criminals? With the ‘unlawful’ criminal police gone who would deal with the murder, rape, robbery, & battery? Are you under the assumption that those types of ‘crimes’ would just work themselves out? Are you advocating people take ‘natural law’ into their own hands?

Have you ever truly experienced a “police state”? I don’t think we’re anywhere near it. Sure we’re going that direction but it’s not by the choice of state, county, or city police officers. I’m a firm believer that the federal government is out of control. The Feds is where the “police state” will come from, not your local 10 car cop shop. By lumping all law enforcement together you do yourself a disservice.

Like I said I can admire your ideals but when they’re just that, with no solutions provided then in the end I can’t really take you seriously. It’s kind of like when a pResident puts a moratorium on deep water drilling without thinking about the long term consequences on the whole southern shoreline of the US.

And please, for crying out loud, don’t lecture me about who I am or am not an enemy of, or who I might be an agent of........that totally disqualifies anything you say and puts you in a whole different realm of the fantastical. Why? Because there are several hundred thousand men and women who are “enemies of God and of the people and agents of absolute evil” who would put themselves between you and someone who would kill you i.e. give their life for you without even knowing you. If that’s being evil then your absolutely surrounded by it and have no escape from it. Maybe you should just leave the USA to it’s demise and get away from all the evil before you’re swallowed up by it. I hear Iran is nice this time of year, maybe it would do you some good to experience a true ‘police state’.


102 posted on 07/13/2010 1:28:49 PM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: brent13a
I find your ideals admirable if even a tab bit lofty and disjointed. I can accept that there are certain peoples that believe that all police are nothing more than ‘unlawful’ criminals with badges. But I’m curious, say your idea would be implemented, and all police would be fired and disarmed. Wouldn’t there still be the rest of the criminals? With the ‘unlawful’ criminal police gone who would deal with the murder, rape, robbery, & battery? Are you under the assumption that those types of ‘crimes’ would just work themselves out? Are you advocating people take ‘natural law’ into their own hands?

Replying to your first post:

Simply stated so there is no misunderstanding. I support the controlled and publicly accountable constitutionally delegated police powers of the County Sheriff. Because this office is directly and not bureaucratically held in check.

If that means we need a triple the size of the Sheriff's office and budget, so be it. Let the voters directly determine their own needs. But a unionized, administrative and unaccountable municipal police force is an abomination to freemen.

Yes, I advocate entirely that the people take the law into their own hands. The law as well as the rest of their responsibilities for self government.

That includes the right to delegate said powers to an accountable elected agent. But that does not include the right of that agent to delegate to any other authority. The only such powers, are those of a sworn deputization of a specific scope, nature and duration. The proverbial posse if you will.

Outside of these bounds, anything else is tyrannical, no matter how well intentioned. A benevolent tyrant is still a tyrant. And a benevolent police state is still a tyranny. With the ever increasing actions like these, one can argue we are no longer governed by even benevolent tyrants.
104 posted on 07/13/2010 2:26:58 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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