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Copper On Life Support After Shock Chinese Demand Drop
The Business Insider ^ | 7-12-2010 | Vincent Fernando, CFA

Posted on 07/12/2010 8:02:37 AM PDT by blam

Copper On Life Support After Shock Chinese Demand Drop

Vincent Fernando, CFA
Jul. 12, 2010, 3:56 AM

Copper prices (for 3-month delivery) just fell from a 2-week high in London, after a surprise report of falling Chinese copper demand shocked traders.

Bloomberg:

Shipments of copper and products into China fell for a third month in June to 328,231 tons, the customs office said July 10. That’s 17 percent less than May and 31 percent less than a year earlier, according to Bloomberg calculations.
Copper in London had its first quarterly decline since 2008 in the April-to-June period on concerns that the global economic recovery was weakening, widening the premium of Shanghai copper over the LME price.

Dr. copper is so broadly used across the economy, that a sustained demand slow-down could be bad news for other commodities China loves to consume as well.

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; commodities; copper
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1 posted on 07/12/2010 8:02:43 AM PDT by blam
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This is one of those indicators that MSM reporters and stock pumpers will ignore.


2 posted on 07/12/2010 8:04:26 AM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: blam
Yesterdays China news:

China Posts A MONSTER Trade Surplus, As Exports Surge 44%

3 posted on 07/12/2010 8:04:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Hmmm. Copper is a critical war material.

Just sayin’...


4 posted on 07/12/2010 8:06:30 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 534 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: blam

Well, that ought to cut down on the number of people getting electrocuted on power lines.


5 posted on 07/12/2010 8:07:20 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: blam

I’ll believe this when I see the retail prices for copper pipes and wiring come down.


6 posted on 07/12/2010 8:09:21 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: blam

Not sure what the bottom will be, but this would be a good long term investment when it finally drops out. There will ALWAYS be a demand for copper in manufacturing.


7 posted on 07/12/2010 8:12:36 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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To: misterrob
A Reminder Of Why The Baltic Dry Index Is A Useless Leading Economic Indicator
8 posted on 07/12/2010 8:12:36 AM PDT by blam
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To: pnh102

I doubt that wiring and copper pipe inventory move fast enough to see any reflection in fluctuating market prices for copper. What is sitting on the shelf is priced based on the price of copper when it was manufactured.


9 posted on 07/12/2010 8:14:10 AM PDT by listenhillary (November is just the first step! If we falter after that step, the win will mean nothing.)
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To: blam

I work for the local water utility and copper/water meter theft has been a HUGE problem for at least the past 5 years.

We thought we would see thefts go down after the Beijing Olympics but it has continued unabated.


10 posted on 07/12/2010 8:14:46 AM PDT by Finatic ("you see kids were so much wiser after the wars")
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To: misterrob

A stock market truism: A bull market has a copper roof.

From another site:

It means that stock market bull markets end when the copper market puts in a major top. When a copper roof lasts several years and copper starts down convincingly, you know you have a whopper of a bear nearby in the stock market. When copper starts down bull markets in stocks have already topped but not in a convincing way. Usually when copper is breaking to the downside stocks are rallying. Specifically, the implication would be currently that count 2 of a major bear market has been completed, and the hugely destructive movement to count 3 has begun. Meanwhile, copper would have minor rallies but its trend would continue down to previous levels. What level is that?

70 cents/lb which would be reached by 2013 or before based upon the rakish, extremely bearish, down sloping neckline in the long term chart. The chart could also be interpreted as a giant diamond reversal pattern. If it’s a diamond, then copper may drop to 50 cents, or lower.

How good is this theory? Mediocre. However, when it works, it really works. You could see why. The previous economic boom drives up raw materials prices, building materials like copper, and the inevitable ensuing bust, drives them down. We have had an economic boom in ROW and it’s reasonable to assume that ROW will have a bust especially since the boom was built on socialism’s state assisted Keynesian artificial demand(putting munnee in peepulz pahkits).


11 posted on 07/12/2010 8:16:13 AM PDT by DManA
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To: blam

Copper=electronics production. No copper, no chinese made consumer goods, no economic recovery.


12 posted on 07/12/2010 8:17:45 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: reagan_fanatic

And cut down on the number of Darwin Awards for the rocket surgeons who strip live electrical boxes.


13 posted on 07/12/2010 8:17:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: blam

Doctor Copper calling for a double dip, or worse.


14 posted on 07/12/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("There is no more money. Period. We are BROKE." - Lurker 5/21/10)
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To: Finatic
I work for the local water utility and copper/water meter theft has been a HUGE problem for at least the past 5 years.

It's been a huge problem for 40 years. I remember an episode of Sandford and Sons that revolved around Fred buying a load of stolen water pipe that turned out to be stolen from his own house.

15 posted on 07/12/2010 8:19:50 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: blam

Good news for ammo makers. Copper bullet jackets and brass cases (brass is a copper-zinc alloy) will be cheaper to make.


16 posted on 07/12/2010 8:21:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: misterrob
This is one of those indicators that MSM reporters and stock pumpers will ignore.

True, big disconnect, 28% of copper supply is used in construction.

17 posted on 07/12/2010 8:25:40 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Finatic

Here’s a clever copper theft in Kentucky——>>

Police Investigate Copper Theft
Written by {ga=jkendall}
Monday, 12 July 2010 07:42

Thieves get away with copper from a Jessamine County substation overnight.
It happened at a Blue Grass Energy substation off Harrodsburg Road.
Police say a neighbor heard some noise coming from the area.
When he went to check it out he saw a truck driving away with no headlights on.
He called police. Investigators say it appears the thieves used a backhoe to lift a spool of copper over a fence and into the back of a truck.
A representative for Blue Grass Energy was called in to determine exactly how much was stolen.
Thieves tried to target a different Blue Grass Energy substation back on May 21st but weren’t able to get away with anything that time.


18 posted on 07/12/2010 8:27:48 AM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: blam

So what are my Obama stash of pennies worth now? ;-)


19 posted on 07/12/2010 8:28:19 AM PDT by almost done by half
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A lot more than a penny IF they were made of copper.


20 posted on 07/12/2010 8:30:24 AM PDT by listenhillary (November is just the first step! If we falter after that step, the win will mean nothing.)
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