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1 posted on 07/11/2010 8:49:55 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

hmmmmmm....

Why do I suddenly start to think about Clinton FBI files?


2 posted on 07/11/2010 8:51:47 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Lmo56

Using the logic of the illegal Immigration Crowd,YES.


3 posted on 07/11/2010 8:52:14 PM PDT by puppypusher
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They are as much citizens as those kids that have mothers who cross the Rio Grande and go straight to a US maternity ward and give birth.


4 posted on 07/11/2010 8:52:18 PM PDT by SorosOwnsObama
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To: Lmo56

Per the liberal definition, anyone who ever thought about visiting the US is an American citizen.


5 posted on 07/11/2010 8:52:30 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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I am SURE those kids are Americans. And effectively when they deported those spies, they deported those kids.

HMMMMMM....!!! PRECIDENT..!!!!

Just what we need..!!


7 posted on 07/11/2010 8:54:06 PM PDT by TokuMei
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No, foreign spies are unregistered agents of a foreign country and their children would not be 14th Amendment citizens.


8 posted on 07/11/2010 8:54:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Yes - they’re anchor babies.

Makes one think that maybe that law should be changed, doesn’t it?


12 posted on 07/11/2010 9:03:30 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Lmo56

Yes, if they were born here, they are American citizens.


13 posted on 07/11/2010 9:04:31 PM PDT by kabar
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Ping!

Hmmm....14th Amendment discussion from a slightly different angle.


14 posted on 07/11/2010 9:05:57 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from the front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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If they were acting as agents of the Russian government and deported rather than tried, then they are immune, therefore not under the jurisdiction thereof, and neither would their children be.

So, no.


15 posted on 07/11/2010 9:12:42 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Gosh..by deporting the parents, you’d think they were BREAKING UP FAMILIES, wouldn’t you?

Gosh how sad.......

How might we remedy policy to be more CONSISTENT? How might we change things around so that it’s less ad-hoc...?


16 posted on 07/11/2010 9:13:17 PM PDT by TokuMei
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hate to separate families ... send the kiddies back too!


20 posted on 07/11/2010 9:27:26 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.


22 posted on 07/11/2010 9:32:08 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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If you buy La Raza's definition of a citizen, sure. They're citizens.

But the absurdity of treating the children of foreign spies as citizens shows just how ridiculous the whole thing is.

Russia has been sending people here under false pretenses for a century. They are referred to as "illegals"...because they are. No one in their right mind would consider their children as Americans...they're Russian. Just like their parents.

And no one should consider the children of Mexican illegals to be Americans. They're Mexican, just like their parents, who are also illegally in the country.

Believe me, in Russia, there would be no debate about it.

25 posted on 07/11/2010 9:40:36 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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The 14th Amendment declares that anyone born in the US and under its jurisdiction is a citizen.

The intent of the 14th Amendment was never to grant children of foreigners automatic citizenship. But as it is interpreted today, I would have to say yes.

28 posted on 07/11/2010 9:58:13 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: Lmo56
They were not ambassadors [or have diplomatic immunity], nor is Russia a declared enemy of the U.S.

They were agents of a foreign government. That puts them in the "foreign military or diplomat" category, and way out of the "subject to the jurisdiction.

Might be a good case to take to court to serve as later precedent.

29 posted on 07/11/2010 9:59:04 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Lmo56

I read an article addressing this issue. They are and will be allowed to stay, or go.


30 posted on 07/11/2010 9:59:43 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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The 14th Amendment declares that anyone born in the US and under its jurisdiction is a citizen. But what about the children of the Russian spies, are they citizens?

It's really simple. If the spies were not subject to US jurisdiction, then the FBI could not have arrested them. Instead, they would have to have been declared persona non grata and expelled. But that's not what happened. The cuffs went on, and they appeared in court in prison attire, very much in custody and very subject to US juridicion indeed! Criminals, not diplomats!

So, under the 14th, that means their kids are natural born US citizens, eligible to run, upon attaining the age of 35 (assuming they've been hear 14 years).

34 posted on 07/11/2010 10:14:08 PM PDT by cynwoody
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big deal, russian spies are the least of our problems, YAWN

we got a muzzie in the white house with intent to demolish the USA and CHANGE it into a socialist autocracy! !

41 posted on 07/11/2010 10:36:20 PM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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Why not? The children of illegals are declared to be citizens- even the children of criminals here illegally...That is exactly why we need to change birth citizenship ASAP.


73 posted on 07/12/2010 12:27:16 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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