hmmmmmm....
Why do I suddenly start to think about Clinton FBI files?
Using the logic of the illegal Immigration Crowd,YES.
They are as much citizens as those kids that have mothers who cross the Rio Grande and go straight to a US maternity ward and give birth.
Per the liberal definition, anyone who ever thought about visiting the US is an American citizen.
I am SURE those kids are Americans. And effectively when they deported those spies, they deported those kids.
HMMMMMM....!!! PRECIDENT..!!!!
Just what we need..!!
No, foreign spies are unregistered agents of a foreign country and their children would not be 14th Amendment citizens.
Yes - they’re anchor babies.
Makes one think that maybe that law should be changed, doesn’t it?
Yes, if they were born here, they are American citizens.
Ping!
Hmmm....14th Amendment discussion from a slightly different angle.
If they were acting as agents of the Russian government and deported rather than tried, then they are immune, therefore not under the jurisdiction thereof, and neither would their children be.
So, no.
Gosh..by deporting the parents, you’d think they were BREAKING UP FAMILIES, wouldn’t you?
Gosh how sad.......
How might we remedy policy to be more CONSISTENT? How might we change things around so that it’s less ad-hoc...?
hate to separate families ... send the kiddies back too!
“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”
Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
But the absurdity of treating the children of foreign spies as citizens shows just how ridiculous the whole thing is.
Russia has been sending people here under false pretenses for a century. They are referred to as "illegals"...because they are. No one in their right mind would consider their children as Americans...they're Russian. Just like their parents.
And no one should consider the children of Mexican illegals to be Americans. They're Mexican, just like their parents, who are also illegally in the country.
Believe me, in Russia, there would be no debate about it.
The intent of the 14th Amendment was never to grant children of foreigners automatic citizenship. But as it is interpreted today, I would have to say yes.
They were agents of a foreign government. That puts them in the "foreign military or diplomat" category, and way out of the "subject to the jurisdiction.
Might be a good case to take to court to serve as later precedent.
I read an article addressing this issue. They are and will be allowed to stay, or go.
It's really simple. If the spies were not subject to US jurisdiction, then the FBI could not have arrested them. Instead, they would have to have been declared persona non grata and expelled. But that's not what happened. The cuffs went on, and they appeared in court in prison attire, very much in custody and very subject to US juridicion indeed! Criminals, not diplomats!
So, under the 14th, that means their kids are natural born US citizens, eligible to run, upon attaining the age of 35 (assuming they've been hear 14 years).
we got a muzzie in the white house with intent to demolish the USA and CHANGE it into a socialist autocracy! !
Why not? The children of illegals are declared to be citizens- even the children of criminals here illegally...That is exactly why we need to change birth citizenship ASAP.