Posted on 07/11/2010 3:59:49 PM PDT by TaraP
It's interesting to try to divine the chicken-and-egg of Mel Gibson's firing by WME last week: Was it his (first-alleged, now aurally proved) misogynistic and racist comments that enabled the agency to part ways with him, or was it the death of longtime agent Ed Limato that did the trick?
Earlier today the news surfaced that William Morris Endeavor had split with Gibson last week-- as Limato lay seriously ill, and just several days after Radar Online broke the news that Gibson had verbally abused his girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva by using the N-word. (The reports were just that until today, when audio of the Gibson incident was released on Radar.)
There's of course a third variable in all this -- the fact that Gibson just wasn't much of a bankable star anymore anyway.
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Apparently you know when to leave too. Toodles.
I couldn't disagree more; if you refuse to acknowledge a valid point, your opponent can use that against you. It weakens your argument.
Some animals (stars) are more equal than others.
Hollywood seems to be populated by mindless sheep who do what the ‘bosses’ say. And they make a lot of noise with their bleating. They know if they don’t they are instantly unemployable. It’s a mob town in every sense of the word.
What's Mel Gibson's error?
Who has suffered material harm from his speech?
No that's just mean. I thought there were rules about that sort of thing.
Wait a minute! Are you saying you didn't invent the internet? This is confusing; lemme grab my beeber so I can figgur this out!
It doesn't matter. We do NOT debate liberals on this forum. It is NOT what this forum is meant to be.
Your Beeber won't work as the messages have been too garbled and stuned by clueless newbie syndrome. Real or imagined.
It's a cultural thing for Southerners to sometimes address Northerners as "damned Yankees". It's not necessarily polite, often said in jest, but not crime.
One disturbing discovery on my visits to the U.K. and Ireland was an undercurrent of ignorance and media incited hatred towards white U.S. Southerners.
Are you from the Commonwealth perhaps?
Or just an incorrigible Yankee?
I'm certainly a US citizen! Mind you, I've never even been in the South, let alone known someone from there (at least closely). If someone were to use the term "damnyankee" in casual conversation, I wouldn't be offended in the slightest...although it would strike me as a bizarre anachronism, as if I'd just been called "Sirrah".
While I've certainly read the word in historic literature, the only place I've actually heard the term used is in movies or cartoons (although to be precise, Yosemite Sam calls Bugs a darnyankee in Southern Fried Rabbit).
I wasn't speaking of Gibson, but rather posters on this thread.
MurraysMom was unbelievable - you could make the most common-sense statement imaginable, and there in “New Posts” would be some bizarre response.
It wasn’t even worth replying.
It’s defending his right to *Privacy* If I want to say the N-Word in my house all day long that is my buisness.
We have a right to *privacy*
...but posters have been doing exactly that, on this very thread, with someone who has apparently been posting liberal opinions for years!
TPTB have not zotted him yet. There are other trolls that have been left on here for toying purposes. But they get boring and then are banned. See post 252.
I’m a conservative and I’m not one of those “self righteous morons who promotes, solicit and buy all kinds of BS out of black artists.” In fact, most conservative don’t support the BS you described. But we know the difference between right and wrong, and you obviously could care less that Mel Gibson is a racist jerk.
Ah ha! You're one of us then. Good.
Mind you, I've never even been in the South, let alone known someone from there (at least closely).
Then you shouldn't presume to educate Southerners on our customs.
If someone were to use the term "damnyankee" in casual conversation, I wouldn't be offended in the slightest...although it would strike me as a bizarre anachronism
Yet you brought it up as offensive if it were used in an online discussion of the Civil War.
I wasn't speaking of Gibson, but rather posters on this thread.
But the topic of the thread is Mel Gibson's alleged hate speech, is it not?
I don't recall attempting to do so...
Yet you brought it up as offensive if it were used in an online discussion of the Civil War.
I have seen threads on FR in which the term is used in exactly that manner (as an insult). I was simply pointing out that I wouldn't be offended, regardless of the intent of the person using the term. If anything, I'd be amused.
I wasn't speaking of Gibson, but rather posters on this thread.
But the topic of the thread is Mel Gibson's alleged hate speech, is it not?
Regardless of how the thread started, in context I was not speaking of Gibson, but rather of the futility of trying to change someone else's mind in an online discussion. Gibson was entirely tangential to this point.
//I was not aware that Gibson had a right to privacy when he told the police//
He was was not talking in private he was talking to the police so why did you bring it up?
Its obvious you are trolling these people, but your arguments are weak and your methods sloppy.
Actually not christians are christians..
even not all black people are black..
Barry Half-White has only a black sperm donor..
He was raised white by whites.. but became Pink...
and is neither black nor white..
>> Even if what you say is true, does that excuse Mels actions?
You mean ‘words’, private words only heard in public because of recordings.
There’s good reason to condemn foul speech. There’s also good reason to ignore it, and not react like a bunch of petulant weasels unable to stomach strong, discriminatory language.
I’m not making any excuses for his sloppy, abusive mouth. His girlfriend should give him the space to mature if she hasn’t already.
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