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To: little jeremiah

Two links for further edification, first is from the Professor:

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/religion/2010-07-09/e-mail-prompted-complaint-over-ui-religion-class-instructor.html

E-mail that prompted complaint over UI religion class instructor
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E-mail complaint from student about UI religion instructor

From: Kenneth J. Howell

Date: Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Subject: Utilitarianism and Sexuality (for those in 447 FYI)

Next, an email complaint from a student who didn’t like the Professor’s example of homosexuality (this wasn’t even a student who took the class:

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/religion/2010-07-09/e-mail-complaint-student-about-ui-religion-instructor.html

These emails are well worth reading in their entirety.


4 posted on 07/09/2010 3:25:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Pinging both lists. So apparently a college professor cannot speak any thought, idea, principle, theory or body of thought; whether current or historical, that offends a member of a victim class or one of their little friends. Can't let anything so vile sully their little minds. IOW, higher "education" is officially a propaganda arm of leftists, a wholely owned outfit. Conservatives need to find the few remaining non-commie run universities and colleges and send their kids or selves to those institutions only.

7 posted on 07/09/2010 3:29:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Hers’s with some commentary on the letter.

‘It should be noted that my friend and I were both brought up Catholic’

This is standard fare. So called ‘ex’ Catholics are the ones who react violently to any expression of orthodox catholicism. This isn’t a dispute over what is or is not correct, but is a conflict over what the Church ought to teach.

‘which I believe you will agree is downright absurd’

Who believes? The professor? No. Make no mistake, this letter is not addressed to the professor but to the queer society. He’s soliciting opinions, not in order to challenge the professor but to get his buddies to say hey, we need to shut this idiot up.

The ‘response’ is his way of telling the professor, we’re going to come at you hard.

“I am in no way a gay rights activist”

Of course. I just like the odd buttsecks now and again.

“hard-working Illinoisans are funding the salary of a man who does nothing but try to indoctrinate students”

First salvo. Obviously it’s wrong for the government to fund churches but it is right for them to fund queer centeres. Again, not a free speech argument.

“a public university and should thus have no religious affiliation”

Second salvo. One course taught by a professor!= religious affiliation? No. The expression of orthodox catholicism is equated to the establishment of the religion. Again, this is an attack on free speech.

‘Declaring that homosexual acts violate the natural laws of man is another.”

This is the centerpiece of the argument. This is what pissed off the letter writer more than anything else. Saying that homosexuality is unnatural, and everything which is natural is good, Is a profound misunderstanding of the natural law.

He wants to believe, very strongly, that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, and there are no consequences for him. Arguing that it is unnatural is no different then arguing that he is less of a person for liking the buttsecks.

“The courses at this institution should be geared to contribute to the public discourse and promote independent thought’

Provided that thought agrees with me.

“not limit one’s worldview’

Disagreeing with me makes you a narrow minded bigot

“I can only imagine how ashamed and uncomfortable a gay student would feel if he/she were to take this course. “

Of course you can. Because you like the buttsecks.

‘I am a heterosexual male”

Thanks for telling us. So that one time where you enjoyed the buttsecks didn’t make me gay. but don’t let anyone tell you that enjoying buttsecks is wrong.

‘Also, my friend also told me that the teacher allowed little room for any opposition to Catholic dogma”

Oh, this is a beauty. ‘My friend said’, ie, I have zero proof that the professor actually said this and I’m repeating hearsay.

“limiting the marketplace of ideas”

by expressing opinions that I disagree with.

“Leslie Morrow, director of the LGBT Resource Center
Siobhan Somerville, a former teacher of mine and the founder of the queer studies major.’

Who happen to like the buttsecks too. I’m telling on you so that they can smack you down.

“I didn’t go to Notre Dame for a reason”

No, because I wanted my love of buttsecks to be confirmed.


27 posted on 07/09/2010 4:00:19 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: little jeremiah

Thank you for the links to the emails! I cannot believe the student thinks the teacher’s email is hate speech...HATE speech!?!

Whether or not someone thinks homosexuality is OK, it’s obvious that, based on natural moral law, homosexuality is immoral. That’s a perfectly reasonable and rational opinion, because two males are obviously not designed to mate with each other. Again, I stress it doesn’t matter whether someone thinks homosexuality is immoral or not. The teacher’s express point was that homosexuality is considered immoral based on natural moral law. That TRUE, even though the student’s fragile mind couldn’t grasp the point.

What’s really amazing? The student actually claimed classes should encourage independent thought and public discourse while engaging in an attack on the very same things!!!


31 posted on 07/09/2010 4:17:05 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: little jeremiah

These emails are well worth reading in their entirety.

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And comparing the quality of the arguments of each email is also quite instructive.

Some people live to be “ooooofffffennnnnnded.

The second writer mentions that he cc’ed his email to the someone associated with the Queer Studies Major. I’m sure that absolutely nothing offensive to anyone, even my aged mother, is ever said in those classes!!!


39 posted on 07/09/2010 4:36:41 PM PDT by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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