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PT Cruiser, retro hit, symbolized Chrysler's fall
Assoc. Press ^ | 07/09/2010 | By DEE-ANN DURBIN

Posted on 07/09/2010 2:39:17 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: MSF BU

When the Miata’s first came out I called them a “reliable MG”.


61 posted on 07/09/2010 3:50:15 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
Yeah, the Grand Marq is the Mercury duplicate. It's the Fords that are largely sold as police cruisers. I should have been more specific.
62 posted on 07/09/2010 3:51:10 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Responsibility2nd

yea, and then they got down to selling them for 18k


63 posted on 07/09/2010 3:54:48 PM PDT by dila813
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To: RobRoy
You were dead-on then. I've had MG look it over, take it for a drive and basically tell me the same thing. And I've never been accused of effeminacy.
64 posted on 07/09/2010 3:55:28 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sorry, but one of the most light loafered cars made that could have been good. Only the outward styling was even close to cool and the enemic handling and poor performance was worse. IF....they had put a hemi in it and good suspension..maybe.


65 posted on 07/09/2010 3:58:25 PM PDT by doodad
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To: keepitreal
...having to put a quart of oil in it every 750 miles.

I have had a Chrysler mini van since 1986. I am on my third, a 2005 Town & Country Limited with 72,000 miles on the odo.

The 3.8L in this van takes almost two quarts of synthetic oil between my 4000 miles changes and Chrysler says this is normal and looking on the Web shows likewise.

My other two Plymouth Grand Voyagers used about one-half quart of regular oil every 3,000 miles change.

I still love my T&C and the Stow-N-Go seats are better than sliced bread!

66 posted on 07/09/2010 4:03:53 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I always thought it would be a great car, with a V8 and burbling side pipes.

How about a V10?


67 posted on 07/09/2010 4:08:43 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: keepitreal
and having to put a quart of oil in it every 750 miles.

Back in the day(1940s to 1950s)I was told by many adults that 1 quart to 1000 miles per quart was the minimum acceptable oil usage of a motor vehicle. 750 is terrible.

68 posted on 07/09/2010 4:11:26 PM PDT by calex59
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To: trumandogz

Agreed.


69 posted on 07/09/2010 4:11:51 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: MSF BU

I have a TR7 and wish I could afford a Miata. A friend of mine has one and it is a great vehicle.


70 posted on 07/09/2010 4:15:35 PM PDT by calex59
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To: OldDeckHand

“There are a handful of states that it is actually illegal to place them in the front seat, if the vehicle has a rear seat.”

Thankfully Texas is not one of them...otherwise my youngest kid would have been fried several times over, in our hot climate.


71 posted on 07/09/2010 4:18:46 PM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: RobRoy
What is it about Chryslers and brakes?

One of the first things I do with my new car purchases is order a full set of EBC Drilled/Slotted rotors and ceramic pads. With the heavy brake use here in the DC area they keep the heat down and work wonders for getting the best stopping out of your car.

Just remember to use shims to keep your brakes from squealing.

72 posted on 07/09/2010 4:20:35 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: B-Chan

“I agree. Japan has a culture of craft excellence that shows in the quality of their manufactured products. American culture values flash, low prices, and perceived status over quality. Hence the typical American car: a bloated, cheap piece of obsolete junk, designed to appeal to the taste of the average trailer trash loser who thinks he can buy a race car, or a brain-dead suburbanite who thinks his family is safer because they’re inside a fake military vehicle.

Add to the bad design the fact that American cars are put together by overpaid losers who couldn’t care less if what they’re making is actually any good or not and it’s no wonder our cars suck, and have always sucked. (Yes, classic car fans, even those cool old rides with the tailfins and hood scoops sucked: they were kludged-together, inefficient deathtraps.)

For me, it’s Toyota or nothing. “

Very well spoken...although my requirements are a bit less selective. For me, if it’s not UAW-built, I will consider buying it. Obviously Toyota’s fine, so is Nissan and Honda, to some extent, and, of course ANYTHING actually built in Asia.

To those UAW people, perhaps you should think a bit harder before you keep up your “screw the man” attitude.


73 posted on 07/09/2010 4:25:08 PM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: norraad
Meanwhile my 24 year old Toyota purrs along fine and dandy!

Which model? Mine is a red '85 Celica GTS with 130k. It's still a solid, tight feeling car, and believe it or not it gets compliments all the time.

74 posted on 07/09/2010 4:28:09 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Vendome
They became completely disillusioned when their bonds were vaporized in violation of contract and bankruptcy laws.

Did any of them seek legal recourse? You'd think there'd be some way they could get relief (as the Courts say). I couldn't believe there wasn't a real outcry over that . . . guess not too many of the MSM were bondholders (or were they warned ahead of time?)!

76 posted on 07/09/2010 4:37:03 PM PDT by maryz
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To: real saxophonist
I have a red Fiero!

And my phrasing while checking the driver's licenses of a long-distance hauler driver team led one to exclaim"he's a DI,kill him!".

77 posted on 07/09/2010 4:42:51 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: MrPiper

300 inline six was very good engine,power and thrifty with gas.


78 posted on 07/09/2010 4:46:10 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: hoosierham

You weren’t on Parris Island in 1989, were you?


79 posted on 07/09/2010 4:52:30 PM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: BobL

“I agree. Japan has a culture of craft excellence that shows in the quality of their manufactured products.”

If you visit Toyota’s Headquarters you will find 3 pictures in the Lobby.....One of Papa and Sonny Toyoda flanking
both sides of a larger picture of an American.....Walter E Denning. The annual Japanese Industrial Award for Excelence is named for Mr. Denning.......

The Japanese Culture of “craft excellence” was taught to them by an American.....LOLOLOLOLOL


80 posted on 07/09/2010 4:53:29 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (One aspect of the information age is the acceptance as fact of the uninformed opinion)
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