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To: Filo

You wrote:

“Murder 2 doesn’t require intent to kill.”

Strange. Earlier, you wrote: “Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable “heat of passion””

So, your definition is down by 50% already.

“As I posted in another thread: If a guy chugs a fifth of vodka and hops in his pick-em-up and drives down the road at 120 does he mean to kill that family out for a picnic? Is he innocent because it was an “accident?””

Nope, but states have specific vehicular/drunk driving crimes.

“The officers cuffing Grant were not, the others on the platform were. Either way, the taser wasn’t necessary in the first place, which is the point. Grant was under control and tasing him under the circumstances would have simply been vindictive. As it turns out, shooting him was more so.”

He thought the taser was necessary.

“You did better than I did. I figured he’d get off Scott free since cops get away with murder all the time.”

This wasn’t murder.


62 posted on 07/09/2010 4:12:43 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998
Strange. Earlier, you wrote: “Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable “heat of passion””

Quoting only half of the definition (which is an either/or one) is a really interesting form of dishonesty.

Bravo.

He thought the taser was necessary.

And a reasonable person, including the other cops, would not. Clearly the two cuffing Grant were surprised that anything at all happened.

This wasn’t murder.

Yes it was. Murder 2, by the book.

Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable "heat of passion" or 2) a killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender's obvious lack of concern for human life. Second-degree murder may best be viewed as the middle ground between first-degree murder and voluntary manslaughter.
78 posted on 07/09/2010 5:41:46 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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