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To: Filo

You wrote:

“What you are saying is that there is no evidence for Murder in the First Degree.”

Nope. What I am saying is there was no intent to murder - as shown by the evidence. Thus, murder 1, murder 2, just don’t work.

“While I understand why you believe that I disagree because Mehserle had his taser out, put it away and then later drew his sidearm and fired. That makes the “I grabbed the wrong weapon” part of his claim quite a bit less credible.”

No, it does not. Correctly completely a task and later doing it incorrectly does not make the incorrect time les accidental. Look at how many people say, “I thought I stepped on the brake” when they actually stepped on the gas. They may have driven a car ten thousand times, but they can still goof up.

“Regardless, since there is no evidence for any need for any weapon; the fact that Mehserle and Mehserle alone drew one is clearly in line with the definition of Murder 2:”

Nope. He drew the weapon because he was in the position to do so. The other officer was not.

“Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable “heat of passion” or 2) a killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender’s obvious lack of concern for human life.”

And neither 1 or 2 applies here.

I called this when it happened. I took one look at the video tape and I knew it. I was right all along.


37 posted on 07/09/2010 3:35:20 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998
Nope. What I am saying is there was no intent to murder - as shown by the evidence. Thus, murder 1, murder 2, just don’t work.

Murder 2 doesn't require intent to kill.

As I posted in another thread: If a guy chugs a fifth of vodka and hops in his pick-em-up and drives down the road at 120 does he mean to kill that family out for a picnic? Is he innocent because it was an “accident?”

Nope. He drew the weapon because he was in the position to do so. The other officer was not.

The officers cuffing Grant were not, the others on the platform were. Either way, the taser wasn't necessary in the first place, which is the point. Grant was under control and tasing him under the circumstances would have simply been vindictive. As it turns out, shooting him was more so.

I called this when it happened. I took one look at the video tape and I knew it. I was right all along.

You did better than I did. I figured he'd get off Scott free since cops get away with murder all the time.

As it turns out this is the first time a CA cop has been convicted of a crime for an on-duty shoot in 30 years or something like that.
50 posted on 07/09/2010 3:53:56 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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