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“And part of the reason the 2nd Amendment exist is because they wanted to leave a failsafe in the hands of the people if all else fails.”

And you know this ... how? It certainly isn’t in the document itself. I’m not here to argue the Second Amendment, but just to point out that you are willing to interpret it that way because you are philosophically inclined to accept the use of violence against your countrymen as a way to defend yourself against what *you* define as tyranny.

The Founders knew that the Constitution is an incomplete document, which is why they included provisions to amend it. They also knew thatthe People might determine that social situations might chaange, and that they would demand new Constitutional safeguards that they, the Founders, couldn’t foresee. Why isn’t that system sufficient for you if the Constitution must be changed or strengthened?

You say “the people are doing a terrible job of it,” which to me indicates that you know longer trust your fellow citizens. You don’t trust them to be able to govern themselves wisely. The government is “unrecognizable to the framers” in more ways than one - just look at the role women and African-Americans play in it. THAT also is not what they intended. Should those amendments be tossed out? You give an instance of the People are doing it wrong (your reference to the Commerce Clause, for instance) and you immediately explain how the Second Amendment is there “if all else fails.”

If WHAT else fails? You haven’t told me what you are willing to do to fix things, aside from get your guns if you feel it’s warranted. I will only use my gun against my fellow citizens to defend myself in instances of immediate life-threatening peril - and that doesn’t mean because I am scared that Obamacare might lead to “death panels,” for instance. I mean a criminal, mob or a soldier entering my house, or accosting us outside of the home, to do me, mine or my neighbors bodily harm.

When you say you are willing to use violence against your fellow countrymen to guarantee you liberty, what exactly does that mean you are willing to do? Don’t just fall back on references to sentiments expressed before the Constitution was even ratified. You may feel your liberty threatened and tyranny appearing, when other Americans do not. When do you believe that all else will have failed?

I prefer to err on the side of life. All our citizens have the right to Life as well as Liberty. Our system exists so that Liberty may be preserved without resorting to violence. Can you accept that?