'Artificial fog’ may have brought down (Polish) president’s plane

The Telegraph, U.K. ^ | July 8th, 2010 | Matthew Day

[theanchoragedailyruse]

The aircraft crashed earlier this year as it tried to land at Smolensk airport in severe fog. The fog, which had thickened rapidly just before the arrival of the plane, had reduce visibility to little more than 650ft (200m), well short of the recommended minimum of 3,280ft (1,000m)

Poland reportedly wants access to US satellite photography that might cast new light on the weather conditions at the time of the crash, according to Gazeta Prawna, a Polish newspaper.

Prosecutors want help from American experts as to whether “there is a scientific and technical capacity to generate artificial fog”, the paper said.

[theanchoragedailyruse]

Aside from the sensationalized "artifical fog" in the headlines, the real part of the story is this:

"...Poles are anxious to discover whether American military intelligence recorded conversations made from the aircraft’s satellite phone as part of a Nato signals monitoring network.

Colonel Jerzy Artymiak, from the Polish military prosecutor’s office, confirmed that a request for American assistance has been made although did not provide any further information. Although investigators have stressed that probes into artificial fog and remote instrument tampering are just lines of inquiry they will help fuel conspiracy theories in Poland blaming Russia for the crash."

The have asked the U.S. to help with the investigation on the FDR and CVR.

The Russians continue to deny the Poles in obtaining the originals.

[theanchoragedailyruse]

Marker antennas at radio beacon 1050 meters from approach end of runway. The MARKERU" E-615 is integrated with an ILS. MARKERU" E-615

APM runway light at radio beacon 1050 meters from approach. The Jak-40 crew stated the APM's were mobile and 200 meters from the runway. APM 90 ATC stated to TU-154 lights were near runway. Кодовый неоновый светомаяк КНС-4 Red Neon Lantern at radio beacon 1050 meters from runway,is used in fog. Pilots make no mention of seeing this. It will flash Morse code. The lantern is used at other Russian airports. The PAR RSP-10MN radar is at Smolensk.

[NoLibZone]

Obama has already returned the 10 Russian Spies caught last week!

He is not going to help Poland.

Or any anti Russia investigations.

[happygrl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54IxJfPxBoU&feature=player_embedded

Evidence that survivors were shot.

[HiTech RedNeck]

At least until Russia beatdowns on the Moose start to hit the news. Then the Bummer will sing a different tune.

[gr8eman]

Can you elaborate?

[MindBender26]

This is the daily Tin Foil Hat remblings of this non-pilot weatherman who knows nothing about flying.

The source inside Poland is usually something that makes DEPKA look good.

Ignore them completely.

[theanchoragedailyruse]

I flew on missions that went to pick up dead pilots like you.

You were just one of the lucky idiots who doesn’t recognize a precison approach.

Try this on for size, just ignore the threads I post.

[WoofDog123]

there is a digitally enhanced version of this floating around, showing better resolution on the shots - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread569884/pg1

[theanchoragedailyruse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwQR13ha-BE

Study up on a military PAR.

Like I said the Russian ATC drove that plane into the ground.

Glide slope and on course was being told to the pilot.

But there is one problem with the ATC, they lied to the investigators. ATC told one investigator that they saw the plane on radar at 1.1km and told to pilot to level at 50 meters and in the other statement ATC stated they lost the plane on the radar at 1.5 - 1.7 km out.

Hardly a source from Poland, it comes directly from Russia.

[onona]

Ping

[Yo-Yo]

'Artificial fog’ may have brought down (Polish) president’s plane

No, a pilot who, through either arrogance or political pressure, igonored repeated warnings that the fog was below minimums and attempted a landing is what brought down (Polish) president's plane.

[C210N]

there is a scientific and technical capacity to generate artificial fog...

That's simply ridiculous. No, more likely it was artificial high ground covered with artificial trees.

[MindBender26]

Absolutly....

It was those dirty old Ruskies and their Boy Wonder fog making machine again.

They made that pilot fly into the ground! They reached up into the cockpit and changed his altimeter too!

Those dirty Ruskies!

[monday]

“No, a pilot who, through either arrogance or political pressure, igonored repeated warnings that the fog was below minimums and attempted a landing is what brought down (Polish) president's plane.”

Exactly. Even if the fog was artificial, no one forced the pilot to fly his plane into the ground but him. If he couldn't see, he shouldn't have attempted to land. I suspect he was afraid he would lose his job if he refused to land. It is my understanding the Polish president had fired a previous pilot that had refused to land during similar circumstances.

[RichInOC]

There’s something in the skies over eastern Europe...and it’s farting.

[theanchoragedailyruse]

I didn’t say there was artificial fog DF. But I did tell you there was a Fog bank which has been confirmed.

How mant times has an ATC given out a wrong baro?

You said there was no such thing. Should we continue about your idiot comments?

[theanchoragedailyruse]

There was no repeated warnings, read the transcripts before making dumb statments.

[CodeToad]

“This is the daily Tin Foil Hat remblings of this non-pilot weatherman who knows nothing about flying.
“

He is a typical conspiracy theorist that thinks he’s smarter than the world and this is his one shot at getting attention. Lonely loser, nothing more.

[Tijeras_Slim]

It that the grassy knoll?