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Obama Science Czar Called for Carbon Tax to Redistribute Wealth from Global 'North' to 'South'
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| July 7, 2010
| Christopher Neefus
Posted on 07/07/2010 3:17:42 PM PDT by jazusamo
(CNSNews.com) Dr. John P. Holdren, who then-President-elect Barack Obama nominated as director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy in December 2008, called five months before that for a global climate-change agreement that would allow wealth to be redistributed from countries in the global "North" to countries in the "South."
On the July 3, 2008 edition of the liberal program
Democracy NOW! Holdren told host Amy Goodman: Its important that we have a global agreement on how we are going to limit the emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases going forward, and an agreement that will include the tropical forests, that will include ways to transfer some of the revenues from carbon taxes or carbon emission permits in the North to pay for reduced deforestation in the South.
Holdren, who is sometimes called President Obamas science czar, is the administration's top science official.
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Holdren has talked about international wealth redistribution in his writing, as well as the alleged need to keep developing countries from the urge to mimic overdevelopment, which apparently has occurred in the United States and other Western countries.
In a 1977 college textbook he co-wrote, Ecoscience, for example, Holdren said the United States must set an example for the world by undergoing
dedevelopment, and that wealth must be redistributed with and among nations.
The need for de-development presents our economists with a major challenge, he and his co-authors Paul and Anne Ehrlich
wrote. They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than in the present one.
Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided to every human being, said Holdren and his co-authors.
Dedevelopment, Holdren argued at the time, would set an example for developing countries and show that being a citizen of a giant, smoggy, freeway-strangled industrial state is not necessary to being a happy, healthy, fulfilled human being."
The most recent climate-change bill being discussed in Congress, The American Power Act sponsored by Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), was created as a discussion draft to jump-start debate in the Senate where conversations have stalled since the House of Representatives passed a similar cap-and-trade bill in 2009.
Under the
Kerry-Lieberman bill (pdf), international offset credits could be given to countries that reduce deforestation as detailed in Sec. 756(c ) of the bill, while Section 5004 calls on the Secretary of Agriculture and the administration of the Environmental Protection Agency to create a program to provide assistance to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from deforestation in developing countries, in accordance with this title.
Funding for that program would have to be appropriated by Congress at levels requested by the administration.
In his July 3, 2008 interview on Democracy NOW! Holdren said incentives to reduce deforestation would be a part of the solution, along with real limits and real charges on greenhouse gas emissions. He argued, however, that such charges would not be economically ruinous, but would instead create jobs.
The moment we put real limits and real charges on carbon dioxide emissions, we will see a surge of innovation that will discover even better ways for reducing those emissions, he said. We will see new jobs and new wealth created as we convert our energy economy to a clean one rather than a dirty one. We will see new jobs and new income created in sustainable uses of tropical forests rather than cutting them down.
The notion that this is going to be unaffordable and an economic catastrophe to address this problem is just wrong, said Holdren.
Before joining the Obama administration, Holdren was a professor at Harvard and the director of the Woods Hole Research Center in Falmouth, Mass.
The following is a transcript of Holdrens comments on the July 3, 2008 edition of Democracy NOW!: Dr. John P. Holdren: Well, I think the answer, first of all, is for the world to agree under the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, which goes forward and has negotiations every year and will embrace in 2009 and in Copenhagen a new set of rules for the whole world.
Its important that we have a global agreement on how we are going to limit the emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases going forward, and an agreement that will include the tropical forests, that will include ways to transfer some of the revenues from carbon taxes or carbon emission permits in the North to pay for reduced deforestation in the South.
We need a variety of measures in this global agreement going forward which will get everybody on the same page, and which will lead to the global emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases starting to decline in absolute terms no later than 2020. Thats the sort of trajectory we have to be on -- instead of increasing and the business-as-usual path forward.
By the way, if we keep doing what were doing, we will double those emissions over the next 50 years. And what we need to do instead is have those emissions sharply declining over the next 50 years and that can be done -- the technologies either exist or are in the advanced stages of development to get that done.
The moment we put real limits and real charges on carbon dioxide emissions, we will see a surge of innovation that will discover even better ways for reducing those emissions. We will see new jobs and new wealth created as we convert our energy economy to a clean one rather than a dirty one. We will see new jobs and new income created in sustainable uses of tropical forests rather than cutting them down.
The notion that this is going to be unaffordable and an economic catastrophe to address this problem is just wrong.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: capandtrade; co2emissions; holdren; obama; scienceczar; treason; wealthredistribution
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Obama and his handler must worship the ground this Marxist Holdren walks on.
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:17:49 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
To: steelyourfaith
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:18:47 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
FUBO!!
Rebellion is brewing!!
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:19:50 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
To: jazusamo
I wonder if all these czars are going to get into a ‘redistribution’ throw down.
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:21:03 PM PDT
by
tsmith130
To: jazusamo
Don’t forget McCain-Lieberman:
The Climate Stewardship Acts are a series of three acts introduced to the United States Senate by Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and Senator Joseph Lieberman (ID-CT), with a number of other co-sponsors. Their aim was to introduce a mandatory cap and trade system for greenhouse gases, as a response to the threat of anthropogenic climate change. All three acts failed to gain enough votes to pass through the senate.
FUJM!!
JUST VOTE HIM OUT!!
Rebellion is brewing!!
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:22:44 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
To: jazusamo
This is very PAINFUL to read! What an IDIOT!
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:22:57 PM PDT
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
To: jazusamo
Between this, Van Jones, Obamacare and the “main mission” at NASA, and all the rest, what more proof does someone need that we are living under National Socialism with Fabian/Marxist attributes?
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:27:37 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
To: jazusamo
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:27:54 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
To: Jim Robinson
JUST VOTE HIM OUT!! Rebellion is brewing!!
November can't come soon enough and rebellion is assured unless things change!
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:29:45 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
Please bump the Freepathon and donate if you havent done so!
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:42:27 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
Nothing new here. Redistribution of world wealth has been a goal of progressives for a very long time. After all, the developed countries only stole their wealth from the third world anyway.
I participated in a number of United Nations simulations when I was in college in the 60’s (great way to meet chicks). One of the six resolutions we were given to debate was “The Redistribution of World Wealth”.
The reason global warming is so popular with the UN and the third world is they see it as a way to tax the rich and give to themselves.
To: jazusamo
Holdren and his ecomarxist acolytes have been calling for "equal per-capita emissions allocations" for over a decade. What this means is every time an American wants to enjoy a hot shower or a cold beer we must pay a Bangladeshi (or some other foreigner) for the privilege. Holdren can bite me.
Here's an example of this ecomarxist lunacy from Science magazine in 2000 (pdf format):
http://www.ecoequity.org/docs/science.pdf
To: DugwayDuke
The reason global warming is so popular with the UN and the third world is they see it as a way to tax the rich and give to themselves.That sums it up perfectly plus our dear leader is from a third world country and never actually worked a day in his life, it's been given to him and he figures we might as well give to the rest of the world.
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:53:39 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
They’re spinning cap and trade as a way to reduce the deficit. How is that money going to reduce our deficit if we give it away to other countries?
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posted on
07/07/2010 3:59:42 PM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: jazusamo
Obama Science Czar Called for Carbon Tax to Redistribute Wealth from Global 'North' to 'South.' Obama Science Czar Called for Carbon Tax to Redistribute Wealth from the middle and lower classes in the Global 'North' to a couple of dozen embezzlers and gangsters in the'South.'
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posted on
07/07/2010 4:03:51 PM PDT
by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson" to have your econ arguments at hand.)
To: rogue yam
Thanks for the link, that Marxist turkey has years of experience.
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posted on
07/07/2010 4:03:56 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
WAKE UP AMERICA

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posted on
07/07/2010 4:09:10 PM PDT
by
BobP
(The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
To: jazusamo; Desdemona; grey_whiskers; proud_yank; Horusra; Thunder90; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; ...
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posted on
07/07/2010 4:20:16 PM PDT
by
steelyourfaith
("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
To: Jim Robinson
Exactly. To h**l with these socialists trying to redistribute wealth. How about people actually earning wealth, and then gasp, keeping what they've earned!?
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posted on
07/07/2010 4:30:01 PM PDT
by
ThunderSleeps
(obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
To: Jim Robinson
"Rebellion is brewing!!"Yep, when ya got nothing, ya got nothing to lose. Lets Roll!
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posted on
07/07/2010 4:41:27 PM PDT
by
ArchAngel1983
(Arch Angel- on guard / I'm not anti-government, I'm anti-democrat!)
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