Posted on 07/06/2010 4:07:56 PM PDT by Takethathill
I posted this as a thread on another blog; but, I thought some would find this interesting. I am going to remove the areas that mention the state, adding (state removed). At the end I will give the answer away. So, what state do you think has this evil racist law?
834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in (state removed) shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of (state removed) and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.
No, not Arizona SB1070, not Texas, not even some racist southern state. Ready for this...California. I wonder if if any of the sanctuary cities in California have even read Penal Code 834b. I wonder how many police chiefs have advised their elected bodies that they are likely violating state law. Look at the wording, 'shall' not should.
You are 100% correct. You could find 100 illegal aliens in an hour driving around Boston, but the ICE roadblock in the middle of Vermont apparently has only caught around 500 illegal aliens in all of the years it has been in operation. A roadblock near the Mexican border may make sense, but how many Canadians are trying to sneak into the United States?
What is really infuriating is the fake outrage of the current administration. They call Arizona's wholly legitimate desire the check immigration status of people who are in contact with the police discriminatory, but they have no problem subjecting everyone to a more arbitrary and discriminatory road block themselves.
I'm all for securing the border, and roadblocks near known smuggling and illegal entry points may be justified, but roadblocks that just waste the time of both the citizens and the ICE staff are a poor policy decision.
Last May, Marines from Camp Pendleton were being bussed to Arizona for training. They were in an OD green USMC bus, all in uniform. The bus was stopped twice and checked by ICE. This gives them ‘stats’ to prove they’re not profiling. I know a commercial airline pilot who told me that TSA deliberately singles out white, often elderly people for screening. They document each screening so they can defend themselves against a profiling accusation. I thought “Shouldn’t they just be concentrating on keeping terrorists off airplanes?” Call me crazy, but staying ‘pc’ pulls alot of resources away from important jobs that we’re paying for that aren’t getting done.
You know, a buddy of mine and I were thinking about that. L.A. city has a jail, they are also a sanctuary city. I believe San Francisco is the same. According to this PC it would appear they are in violation. I would like to see what police chiefs say about their officers violating state law.
Not “typically” in California. If a law is thrown out it will quickly be removed, or at least annotated. I’ve seen that many times.
I hate to quibble, but, that is CBP Border Patrol, not ICE, and those checkpoints are all over the southwest border area as well I go through one every day to get to work. By the way, yes, I’m positive it is BP not ICE.
Again, I’m sorry I hate to be pesky, but, this drives me nuts, those checkpoints are CBP Border Patrol. Some might think this is semantics but ICE and CBP, especially Border Patrol have completely different missions.
You are correct, it is a Border Patrol checkpoint. They may be necessary along parts of the poorly secured southwest border area, and due to the limited number of roads in some of those areas they may actually do some good. In New England, where we have far fewer illegal immigrants trying to cross into the USA from Canada, and many roadways the checkpoints are a pointless waste of money and manpower.
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