Posted on 07/06/2010 12:11:05 PM PDT by Lorianne
Many people are still trying to figure out what exactly Congress voted to do last week when they passed their fake budget. Kagro and Dave Dayen go back and forth here, here and here.
But one thing is for certain: if procedural experts are still trying untangle what happened, there is no way 215 members of Congress knew what they were voting for at the time they cast their votes.
I got this from a Hill staffer that evening:
The real story on this thing is that Members were whipped on the rule before the leadership gave us specifics about what was in the budget resolution or what the amendments would look like. We were merely told that there was a budget and it would be tied to the rule and there would be some sort of seperate vote on the war funding. We got details about the budget resolution in the last 24 hours. It’s bullshit that they claim members knew what they were getting into when they didn’t know the intimate details of the budget resolution or the rule itself until right before the vote.
I’m putting it up because it reflects what I heard from many offices that evening: Nancy Pelosi threw the rule up for a vote and sneaked it by without telling even her own members what she was asking them to vote for. She demanded they vote with leadership on a procedural motion or risk retribution, twisted arms and threatened people to get the votes she needed, and didn’t tell them she had slipped in language to cover her own ass with the Catfood Commission.
Majority Whip James Clyburn has been meeting with the commission, and afterwards he was openly supporting benefit cuts to Social Security such as raising the retirement age and means testing — curiously, the exact same talking points John Boehner is parroting. It’s downright deceitful of Pelosi to condemn Boehner for saying the same things about cutting benefits that her own Democratic leadership is saying.
I guess we’re supposed to care about the fact that Boehner wants to spend the money on war, while the Democrats want to “save” Social Security from itself. Are we supposed to believe there’s a difference? It all winds up in Pete Peterson’s pocket anyway, and amounts to sovereign default.
Nancy Pelosi tricked her own caucus into voting for a bunch of crap they did not know about, and now she’s running some bullshit campaign to blame the Republicans for wanting to do the very thing her own deception made possible: cut Social Security benefits.
Well, the language about holding a vote on the Catfood Commission’s recommendations in the lame duck Congress is non-binding, merely a “sense of the House” that they should do so. It’s still Pelosi’s decision as to whether it comes up for a vote or not, and so if she makes the decision to do so, she will personally have to wear it.
She’s turning into Tom DeLay in a skirt.
Pelosi forces vote on Deficit Commission recommendations
http://www.americablog.com/2010/07/pelosi-forces-vote-on-deficit.html
Pelosi slips in vote on raising SS age to 70 (among other things) after mocking J. Boehner for proposing the exact same thing.
She’s speaker because they voted her speaker - it they got bamboozled, it’s their own damn fault.
Who in their right minds would ever trust Pelosi et al??
Oops, I guess that’s the whole point with Dems...
big deal. the dems have got to be used to being forced to vote for bills even though they have no idea what’s in them. it happened on cap and trade and obamacare.
why are the democrats wetting their dresses over this one?
Anybody got the rollcall on this?
Yea, and Bush lied. Democrats have to be the most self declared morons on the planet. They are just so easy to fool.
My 4 year old great grandaughter could trick them.
If they're that stupid, as to let pelosi "trick" them, we certainly don't need them - not that I believe a word of their drivel.
Typical
They have been voting for bills they have not read for a long time why stop now?
If someone is so dumb they were tricked by Nancy Pelosi, it’s hard to see why anyone should re-elect them. I’m dumb but I was tricked by dumber. Now there’s a campaign slogan.
In general "No" votes can be changed to "yes" if a bill doesn't pass, but a "yes" vote is likely to be permanent lf it does pass.
I do not buy it.
Is this Satire? WTF is a Catfood commission?
These bastards voted for her to be Speaker, now they can pay for their errors with their careers.
The idea that a total jerkball like Nancy Pelosi could fool you kind of speaks for itself, doesn’t it?
If someone is so dumb they were tricked by Nancy Pelosi, it’s hard to see why anyone should re-elect them.
They aren’t dumb. They knew what they could potentially be voting for. They are just playing dumb now, acting as if they got snookered, so that they don’t have to take the heat for it politically. Covering their *sses, so to speak. Hoping they won’t get punished at the voting booth for having voted for this farce. Moral cowards.
Is there any reason why Pelosi should not be taken out of the leadership position?
For clarification, FireDogLake is a moonbat site. They are mad at Pelosi for not being sufficiently far to the left.
"Catfood Commission" is their moniker for the "Debt Commission": Debt Commission Gets Started With 'Everything' on the Table, Including National Sales Tax
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