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Ariz. Sheriff Gets Death Threats Over New Law
Fox News ^ | 7/6/2010 | Fox News

Posted on 07/06/2010 11:20:16 AM PDT by Qbert

A high-profile Arizona law-enforcement officer who has been outspoken about his support for the state's controversial new immigration law is receiving death threats, myFOXphoenix.com reported late Monday.

Some of the threats against Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu were from the Mexican mafia and drug cartel members.

Outside law enforcement teams brought in to investigate the threats found them credible.

Babeu was very outspoken about the need to secure the state's border with Mexico -- a known entry point to the U.S. for drug smugglers and illegal immigrant traffickers -- and supports law SB1070, which makes illegal immigration a state crime.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; arizona; az; border; brewer; crimaliens; illegalimmigration
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...Given that the DOJ is suing Arizona on preemption grounds- i.e., that it's the Feds responsibility to enforce illegal immigration laws, does this also mean that the Feds and those in charge are willing to face death threats from the Mexican mafia and drug cartels resulting from the actual enforcement of those laws?
1 posted on 07/06/2010 11:20:19 AM PDT by Qbert
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I wonder if he’s had any calls from Juan McCain.


2 posted on 07/06/2010 11:22:52 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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3 posted on 07/06/2010 11:26:50 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: Qbert

Threatening the lives of law enforcement agents Americans won’t threaten.


4 posted on 07/06/2010 11:26:54 AM PDT by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: Qbert

There is an article on this at the AZ Republic (RAG) website, azcentral.com, and the usual “obots” are posting incredibly stupid comments.


5 posted on 07/06/2010 11:30:21 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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Mexican police are routinely assassinated by the drug cartels in Mexico, and these kinds of people are pouring over our border thanks to the criminal negligence of the Muslim in Chief. It is naive to think that they won't use the same tactics here, and when they do their blood will be directly on the hands of the undocumented Muslim in the White-house.
6 posted on 07/06/2010 11:32:29 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: machogirl

Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Make it illegal in the State of Arizona for an alien to not register with the government, thus being an “illegal alien” (already the case at the federal level: 8 USC 1306a; USC 1304e)

Allow police to detain people where there is a “reasonable suspicion” that they’re illegal aliens (see the recent court case Estrada v. Rhode Island for an idea of what “reasonable suspicion” might entail)

Prohibits sanctuary cities (already prohibited at the federal level, 8 USC 1373) and allows citizens to sue any such jurisdiction

Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Myth No. 1: The law requires aliens to carry identification that they weren’t already required to carry.

Reality: It has been a federal crime (8 United States Code Section 1304(a) or 1306(e)) since 1940 for aliens to fail to carry their registration documents. The Arizona law reaffirms the federal law. Anyone who has traveled abroad knows that other nations have similar requirements. The majority requests for documentation will take place during the course of other police business such as traffic stops. Because Arizona allows only lawful residents to obtain licenses, an officer must presume that someone who produces one is legally in the country. (See News Hour clip 3:45 seconds in)

Myth No. 2: The law will encourage racial profiling.

Reality: The Arizona law reduces the chances of racial profiling by requiring officers to contact the federal government when they suspect a person is an illegal alien as opposed to letting them make arrests on their own assessment as federal law currently allows. Section 2 was amended (by HB2162) to read that a law enforcement official “may not consider race, color, or national origin” in making any stops or determining an alien’s immigration status (previously, they were prohibited in “solely” considering those factors). In addition, all of the normal Fourth Amendment protections against racial profiling still apply.

Myth No. 3: “Reasonable suspicion” is a meaningless term that will permit police misconduct.

Reality: “Reasonable suspicion” has been defined by the courts for decades (the Fourth Amendment itself proscribes “unreasonable searches and seizures”). One of the most recent cases, Estrada v. Rhode Island, provides an example of the courts refining of “reasonable suspicion:”

A 15 passenger van is pulled over for a traffic violation. The driver of the van had identification but the other passengers did not (some had IDs from a gym membership, a non-driver’s license card from the state, and IDs issued from the Guatemalan Consulate). The passengers said they were on their way to work but they had no work permits. Most could not speak English but upon questioning, admitted that they were in the United States illegally. The officer notified ICE and waited three minutes for instructions.

The SB1070 provision in question reads:
“For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state . . . where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person.”

Myth No. 4: The law will require Arizona police officers to stop and question people.

Reality: The law only kicks in when a police officer stopped, detained, or arrested someone (HB2162). The most likely contact is during the issuance of a speeding ticket. The law does not require the officer to begin questioning a person about his immigration status or to do anything the officer would not otherwise do.

Only after a stop is made, and subsequently the officer develops reasonable suspicion on his own that an immigration law has been violated, is any obligation imposed. At that point, the officer is required to call ICE to confirm whether the person is an illegal alien.

The Arizona law is actually more restrictive than federal law. In Muehler v. Mena (2005), the Supreme Court ruled that officers did not need reasonable suspicion to justify asking a suspect about their immigration status, stating that the court has “held repeatedly that mere police questioning does not constitute a seizure” under the Fourth Amendment).

Source = http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?jid=475466&lid=9&rid=123&series=tp06MAY10&tid=999725


7 posted on 07/06/2010 11:33:39 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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Our government has become a 3rd World regime refuses and will not defend our citizens or our borders.

Obama and his associates need to be tried for treason of dereliction of duties bestowed upon them by the Constitution.


8 posted on 07/06/2010 11:38:23 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somwhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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How about we build tent prisons in the desert, surround them wire and post guards. Anyone caught entering the country illegally gets to spend 10 years in this slammer and then gets deported.

About one mile on a side would be a good start.


9 posted on 07/06/2010 11:41:33 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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If the Mexican Mafia carry out their threat against a U.S. law enforcement agent, like Sheriff Babeu, immigration reform will be dead for 20 years, the National Guard and other troops will be sent to the border and the demand to deport illegals will be unstoppable.
10 posted on 07/06/2010 11:42:44 AM PDT by muleskinner
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The scumbag squatter in the White House is responsible for the poor sheriff (and AZ governor) getting death threats from the cartels because he flat out refuses to do his duty and publicly mocks any elected official who attempts to take up the slack. Short of explicitly and publicly cheering them on, I can’t think of anything that would encourage them more. He’s GOT to be impeached.


11 posted on 07/06/2010 11:56:00 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

thanks wobbly


12 posted on 07/06/2010 11:58:02 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: wac3rd

It is going to get worse, or as we would say here in Miss. ‘worser and worser’.


13 posted on 07/06/2010 12:05:38 PM PDT by gulfcoast6 (GOD IS!)
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If the Mexican Mafia carry out their threat against a U.S. law enforcement agent, like Sheriff Babeu, immigration reform will be dead for 20 years...

That I agree with...

the National Guard and other troops will be sent to the border and the demand to deport illegals will be unstoppable.

Uh, I'm not so sure. Who'll send in the troops? The Obama Administration. What have they accomplished to date following the killing of rancher Robert Krentz? Judging the administration by its past actions (or lack thereof) I'd say it would be up to the state of Arizona to respond. I may be wrong, but I think it begs consideration.

14 posted on 07/06/2010 12:07:44 PM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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If the Mexican Mafia carry out their threat against a U.S. law enforcement agent, like Sheriff Babeu

All HELL will break loose as the LEOs and citizens go on the warpath.

15 posted on 07/06/2010 12:17:19 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Three things you don't discuss in public; politics, religion, and choice of caliber.)
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It’s a George Orwell thing...


16 posted on 07/06/2010 12:17:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (There is nothing unexpected about the failure of socialism/communism.freeper pieceofthepuzzle)
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Border Ping


17 posted on 07/06/2010 12:21:12 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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Ping!


18 posted on 07/06/2010 12:23:00 PM PDT by HiJinx (Why govern when you can golf?)
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1. Sued by the feds.
2. Threatened by the cartels.

Sounds to me like 0bama is siding with the cartels on this issue, no?


19 posted on 07/06/2010 12:31:19 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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“Sounds to me like 0bama is siding with the cartels on this issue, no?”

Yes, which would explain why the Gov’s “extremist watch list” doesn’t appear to have been updated to include Mexican mafia members who are threatening to kill county sheriffs.


20 posted on 07/06/2010 12:47:17 PM PDT by Qbert
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